Camp Mystic expanded on FEMA-designated floodplain, refused to buy insurance, had 100-year flood at age 99

[Anonymous]

Camp Mystic expanded on FEMA-designated floodplain, refused to buy insurance, had 100-year flood at age 99

This was no accident. For decades, Camp Mystic was designated at high risk for 100 years flood.

The owners pressured FEMA to remove the designation so they could cheap out on insurance payments hide the danger from the children their reckless negligence killed.

(Obama's FEMA let them do it, and Trump's FEMA doubled down.)

That 100-year flood game at age 99 for the camp.

They knew all along.

Why? Did they put faith in their interventionist Christian God to protect them? Did they believe that dying in a natural disaster is good because it brings people to Heaven? Or are they just greedy people who care more for money than life?


https://apnews.com/article/texas-flood-camp-mystic-map-records-investigation-e12bee8d5f88301363861ca12c19b929

[Anonymous]

I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

[Anonymous]

Southerners have been brainwashed for decades that government is bad and “outsiders” can’t be trusted. And it goes back even further in their history and psyche, but the GOP has taken advantage of it for their gain.

There’s a video of Kerr county officials saying they didn’t want to accept Biden’s $10 million because that would be “making a deal with the devil”. They decided to take it though because they “didn’t want California to get it”. But instead of spending it on preventing these deaths, they upgraded a perfectly fine radio system and gave a few raises.

Their decision killed those people. Their stubbornness and ignorance killed those people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

Basically sacrificed their daughter to Donald Trump. It is truly a cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

Good to know those parents are taking this well while all the sane people are not at the thought that the losses could have been prevented or lessened.

[Anonymous]

In response to evidence that FEMA’s call center did not pick up 84% of calls on July 7, Kristi Nome batted her false eyelashes and said “those reports need to be validified.”

VALIDIFIED??

I am so sick of paying ignoramuses to botch important jobs.

[Anonymous]

I expect they were thinking that it doesn't matter if a camp cabin gets flooded -- they could just dry it out or build a new one.

They did not imagine the river level rising 26 feet in 45 minutes, what was a more of a tsunami than the typical flash flood.

That's not an excuse. We all need to adjust our expectations dramatically for the world under climate change.

But they could have responded to a 'normal' hundred year flood. This new mega-flash version gave them no chance to respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Southerners have been brainwashed for decades that government is bad and “outsiders” can’t be trusted. And it goes back even further in their history and psyche, but the GOP has taken advantage of it for their gain.

There’s a video of Kerr county officials saying they didn’t want to accept Biden’s $10 million because that would be “making a deal with the devil”. They decided to take it though because they “didn’t want California to get it”. But instead of spending it on preventing these deaths, they upgraded a perfectly fine radio system and gave a few raises.

Their decision killed those people. Their stubbornness and ignorance killed those people.

This is sadly predictable - have seen it so much in the small towns in my home state. It’s not the south but MAGA holds sway in these places though there are active Dem organizations. The little tax base they have goes towards the latest model police cars, a new fire station even though the last one was built 15 years prior (always built by the same construction family who live in the county), raises for county leaders/law enforcement but never for the frontline workers. They never spend money on afterschool programs for the kids who do not play sports, etc.

It’s a government jobs program, but the faces of those employed by it are the exact opposite of what Fox splashes on TV every night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I expect they were thinking that it doesn't matter if a camp cabin gets flooded -- they could just dry it out or build a new one.

They did not imagine the river level rising 26 feet in 45 minutes, what was a more of a tsunami than the typical flash flood.

That's not an excuse. We all need to adjust our expectations dramatically for the world under climate change.

But they could have responded to a 'normal' hundred year flood. This new mega-flash version gave them no chance to respond.

The DID have time this respond. They had three hours. Don’t make excuses for them. Kerr county failed their residents and those campers. Because they’re too stubborn and ignorant to believe the government could actually be helpful. They could have sent every cell phone an Amber Alert type alarm two hours earlier, they could have installed flood alarms, they could have denied Mystic’s building permits when they renovated.

MAGA are just perpetually adolescent and can’t stand being told what to do. And rather than accept that they made mistakes and were wrong, they’re pretending like nothing could have been done. No.

[Anonymous]

I still don't understand how this happened with Camp Mystic. They literally built it on a dry river bed that functions as a floodplain during heavy rain. The camp had been flooded numerous times before. Rain isn't this magical mysterious thing. We know hours ahead if it's going to rain heavily. At a vulnerable place like Camp Mystic, there should at minimum have been staff up through the night watching river levels. The camp shouldn't have been there to begin with, but with active observation and reliable weather data those kids should have been moved to higher ground in time.

This is a real Texas failure. Hate the federal government. Hate science and data. Hate common sense. And just pray the problem away. And all those little kids died because of how asinine and negligent Texas conservatives are. And Texas won't do a damn thing about it. Same with Uvalde. All those cowardly cops kept their jobs. For Texas conservatives, local government is a make-work program for good ole boys. And it has nothing to do with providing safety and service to local communities. Just a shameful day for the state of Texas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how this happened with Camp Mystic. They literally built it on a dry river bed that functions as a floodplain during heavy rain. The camp had been flooded numerous times before. Rain isn't this magical mysterious thing. We know hours ahead if it's going to rain heavily. At a vulnerable place like Camp Mystic, there should at minimum have been staff up through the night watching river levels. The camp shouldn't have been there to begin with, but with active observation and reliable weather data those kids should have been moved to higher ground in time.

This is a real Texas failure. Hate the federal government. Hate science and data. Hate common sense. And just pray the problem away. And all those little kids died because of how asinine and negligent Texas conservatives are. And Texas won't do a damn thing about it. Same with Uvalde. All those cowardly cops kept their jobs. For Texas conservatives, local government is a make-work program for good ole boys. And it has nothing to do with providing safety and service to local communities. Just a shameful day for the state of Texas.

Agree with all of this. In a sick way there is so much blame to go around for local officials probably none of it will stick.

And people can’t face that they are the reason those kids died or they’d do something else with their lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Camp Mystic expanded on FEMA-designated floodplain, refused to buy insurance, had 100-year flood at age 99

This was no accident. For decades, Camp Mystic was designated at high risk for 100 years flood.

The owners pressured FEMA to remove the designation so they could cheap out on insurance payments hide the danger from the children their reckless negligence killed.

(Obama's FEMA let them do it, and Trump's FEMA doubled down.)

That 100-year flood game at age 99 for the camp.

They knew all along.

Why? Did they put faith in their interventionist Christian God to protect them? Did they believe that dying in a natural disaster is good because it brings people to Heaven? Or are they just greedy people who care more for money than life?


https://apnews.com/article/texas-flood-camp-mystic-map-records-investigation-e12bee8d5f88301363861ca12c19b929

I sure hope they don’t have the audacity to request federal funds to restore the entire camp in the same area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know but one of the parents of a child who died said ‘it was an act of God, they had no way of knowing this would happen’. But yes, they did.

I’m sickened

They’ll just pop out more kids.

[Anonymous]

OP, what do you think about people and businesses with buildings/homes in hurricane zones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, what do you think about people and businesses with buildings/homes in hurricane zones?

I'm not OP, but I think they're incredibly stupid and shouldn't be allowed to have insurance, or put responders lives at risk when disaster strikes.