B Meet Seeding
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Anonymous
| We have (had) a rule on our MCSL team that if you swam an event in an A meet and placed in the top 3, the swimmer is not eligible to swim the same event in the following B meet. I see, though, for this week’s B line-up, a few kids are being allowed to swim in events where they placed top 3 last weekend. This seems like shenanigans to me. My kid placed last Saturday, too, but wasn’t made aware of this seeming rule change & so has been closed out of these same events. Is this something to raise with the team reps? DC and I are afraid of retaliation & being kept out of the last A meet & Divisionals for speaking up. |
Anonymous
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I would say something.
As a team rep I don't always have the energy to police B meet entries. There may also be a valid reason they are swimming- working on something? But should not be eligible for a first place ribbon. |
Anonymous
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Yep, it's not fair because the other kids have double opportunities to improve their times for the ladder.
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Anonymous
| Right, quite possibly honest mistake. Easy fix, "Hi Coach, I noticed a few swimmers from the A meet are swimming the same event in the B meet. Can we switch my kids event?" |
Anonymous
OP here. I sent the coach this message, also like did I miss a rule change here and could DC maybe swap events, and got no response … |
Anonymous
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I would ask for clarification. The only scenario where we allow this is for kids who aren't legal in anything else. We don't permit kids to swim in a meet until they're legal, so if they can't swim free or back due to A meet, then we let them swim those strokes again at the following B meet. Otherwise, they'd be kept out of the meet.
If the coaches are letting people get extra chances to qualify for Divisionals, that feels unfair to other swimmers on the team that only get one chance/week. It may also violate the rules of your B meet league, if you're part of one. |
Anonymous
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I noticed our team is doing this this week at the B meet as well, but I think the A meet swimmers are all swimming exhibition. I'm new to swimming and am a bit confused about this as well.
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Anonymous
Events are free and back stroke, and swimmers placed second or third on Saturday, so no issue of legality. It feels to me like coach wants to give them an extra shot at Divisionals (over DC btw) but then am afraid maybe I’m being paranoid? |
Anonymous
| Our MCSL team won’t even let you swim it in B if you swam it in A, period, even if you didn’t place or DQed. Our meets would go on forever if many A meet swimmers doubled up like that. |
Anonymous
He did not respond to your inquiry, thus, confirming your suspicion. Why didn't you copy the team rep? |
Anonymous
| You need to let the team rep know, OP. But that said, the fact that you're concerned about retaliation suggests that you already know your team culture is problematic. That's the real problem here. There are reasonable explanations for what you describe, provided the team culture is healthy. |
Anonymous
OP - My take is that our reps don’t really push back on our coach and coach really runs the show. |
Anonymous
| Our MCSL team doesn’t allow any repeat entries - any A meet event is off limits in the next B meet unless there was a DQ. It’s a pain to police but the reps, coaches and automation check it. |
Anonymous
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B meets aren’t governed by MCSL so each team makes their own rules.
Our team you can swim anything you didn’t swim at that preceding A meet. You could’ve won IM & 3 strokes at the A meet and still swim the 4th stroke exhibition at the b meet. Now if you didn’t swim the max number of events, your coaches would need to determine which you could earn points for the team. But you can only earn points for 3 individual events + IM between the two meets. |
Anonymous
| could also be a kid worried someone will bump them from divisionals, but agreed they had their chance the previous weekend. |