With Cornell consistently ranking above Brown and Dartmouth in the USNews rankings isn't it safe to say that Cornell is a middle ivy now? Also Cornell is extremely strong in STEM which will continue to grow as the primary basis for university reputation across the world. Also given a lot of the bad press around Columbia I would say the tiers now are:
Tier 1: HYP Tier 2: Penn, Cornell Tier 3: Columbia Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth DD/friends anecdotally say the USN rankings in the last couple of years have changed things and they refer to Cornell as a T10, while Brown and Dartmouth are considered just OK T20s. |
Get a grip, all ivies are top notch, some are better than others for particular areas of study. |
I didn't know Brown and Dartmouth were Ivies. Or Penn. |
Andy "Nard Dog" Bernard went to Cornell. That says it all. |
This is more an insult to you than the schools. |
Who cares? |
OP with their Cornell bound kid. 😁 |
Ithaca. End of discussion. |
PP you replied to. I'm not American, and the detailed rankings of US schools don't interest me enormously. Sometimes it's useful to remember that outside of the US, no one knows about any of these schools apart from Harvard, and occasionally Stanford, MIT, Yale or Princeton. And the latter only if you ask the educated, worldly people. Perspective. It's important to not get too caught up in which schools your kid is applying to. |
There is no way this thread - or any thread comparing 2 or more colleges - can end well.
Going for popcorn now. |
Yes and also many who want to stay and work in US don’t need to care where their school ranks on world stage or if internationals have heard of them. |
Ivy Campuses
1. Cornell 2. Princeton 3. Yale |
Tier 1: HYP
Tier 2: Wharton, Dyson Tier 3: Columbia CC SEAS, Penn non-Wharton, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell non-Dyson non-contract. Tier 4: Cornell contract colleges Agree? |
Cornell tends to place as the top Ivy for engineering. |
Cornell has an amazing motel management school. OK |