Gifted MAP scores?

[Anonymous]

My ADHD second grader got a RIT score of 208 in Math and 205 in reading. But the growth between fall to spring was 29th and 24th percentile. I’m not quite sure what to make of this and does that mean maybe not gifted like everyone has always said?

[Anonymous]

MAP isn’t a gifteness (IQ) test — it’s one that largely is based on exposure and retention. Did your kid take CogAT? That’s the test for giftedness.

[Anonymous]

Thanks! That doesn’t really address why the very low percentile of growth for the year though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! That doesn’t really address why the very low percentile of growth for the year though.

Again it’s based on exposure. Your kid is already above grade level, so they’re not going to be exposed to more in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! That doesn’t really address why the very low percentile of growth for the year though.

When your kid scores really high, there is no room for great growth. My kid scores 98% on map in math and his growth scores are at bottom because he consistently scores within high 90th percentile.

Don’t worry about it.

Now if a kid scores 20% and jumps to 50% that’s huge growth scoress.

[Anonymous]

Ok thanks for explaining!

[Anonymous]

I don't know about Reading, but 208 Math for spring of 2nd grade isn't that high, though I think it would be 99th percentile in the fall of 2nd grade. In my school they allow kids to take some level of gifted programming if you have MAP scores in the 99th percentile. Some schools around us I think do "above 95th percentile."

[Anonymous]

Where do you see percentiles for GROWTH? I see percentiles given for the raw score?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ADHD second grader got a RIT score of 208 in Math and 205 in reading. But the growth between fall to spring was 29th and 24th percentile. I’m not quite sure what to make of this and does that mean maybe not gifted like everyone has always said?

Here's how it works. Look at Table A.1 in this document.
Find the mean for second grade: it's 189.42 for Spring. Now look for where it says Student SD. That number is 13.44.
Now you subtract 189.42 from 208 and divide the result by 13.44. The result is 1.38. That's your child's z-score.

1.38 is not considered gifted; the MAP test is also pretty accurate in this range (which a z-Score converter will tell you corresponds to about the 91 or so percentile.)

To be considered gifted, the z-Score should be at least 2. Some consider 3 or more "profoundly gifted."

In practice, though, there are more kids that score a high z-score on this test (particularly in Math - DC scored 4.7 SD above the mean one year) - particularly kids interested in Math who do it competitively or recreationally. The accuracy of the test declines past the 97.5% percentile, or about a z-score of 2.

So, overall, your child's result is a bit inconclusive. With some practice, they could probably reach into "gifted" territory the next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about Reading, but 208 Math for spring of 2nd grade isn't that high, though I think it would be 99th percentile in the fall of 2nd grade. In my school they allow kids to take some level of gifted programming if you have MAP scores in the 99th percentile. Some schools around us I think do "above 95th percentile."

https://sites.google.com/view/nweapercentilecalculator

Both are above average, neither are particularly high.

Of course, MAP is not a test for giftedness (CogAT also isn't a great test for giftedness, but it's popular for that purpose), so you can't really say. If all I had was those scores, I'd think my kid was bright but not gifted.

[Anonymous]

Where do you see growth percentiles? I see the raw numerical score, along with the percentile for how that number compares with others in the grade level. I also see expected and actual growth, but not by percentile,

[Anonymous]

Anything below 99th percentile is not really gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything below 99th percentile is not really gifted.

And 99th percentile doesn’t necessarily mean gifted. Mine scored 99th percentile and I really don’t think he is gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do you see growth percentiles? I see the raw numerical score, along with the percentile for how that number compares with others in the grade level. I also see expected and actual growth, but not by percentile,

Growth percentile is entirely uninteresting in my opinion, which is why I didn't add it to the calculator. Get it from their tables if you must.