When discussing stats, do you include senior year first semester/quarter grades

[Anonymous]

in the GPA calculation?
When people say 3.9 on this board, is that their junior year cumulative gpa or do they include first quarter/semester grades in the senior year in the mix?
What about scattergram stats?

[Anonymous]

Of course you include all HS course grades (including hs courses taken in MS). Why wouldn’t you?

[Anonymous]

People discuss things that put them in the best light.

[Anonymous]

Our school only recalculates each June, so kids apply with stats from the first 3 years of HS but then Naviance uses the gpa from graduation. I think kids discussing it aren’t recalculating anything themselves so just depends on the timing of the discussion

[Anonymous]

The scattergram at our Fairfax County school includes the GPA at graduation.

However, most kids apply with just the end of their junior year grades because of the deadlines of the school are in Fall right before the first semester senior year grades are in.

For what it’s worth, my son applied with a 4.2 weighted GPA and graduated with a 4.1. But most kids apparently go up senior year because of more APs and honors classes.

[Anonymous]

Interesting…I guess when is the school profile created?

[Anonymous]

My understanding is that junior year senior year grades/rigor is the most important. The first quarter senior year grades affect ED outcome, the first semester senior year grades affect RD outcome. My understanding is that whether you include it in the calculation, the senior year grades (at least up to the first semester) is very very important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that junior year senior year grades/rigor is the most important. The first quarter senior year grades affect ED outcome, the first semester senior year grades affect RD outcome. My understanding is that whether you include it in the calculation, the senior year grades (at least up to the first semester) is very very important.

Our school only does semester grades, so no senior grades are included in ED apps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school only recalculates each June, so kids apply with stats from the first 3 years of HS but then Naviance uses the gpa from graduation. I think kids discussing it aren’t recalculating anything themselves so just depends on the timing of the discussion

Agree. Naviance does not reflect the grades the students used to apply to the colleges, which can make it misleading given post-acceptance senioritis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school only recalculates each June, so kids apply with stats from the first 3 years of HS but then Naviance uses the gpa from graduation. I think kids discussing it aren’t recalculating anything themselves so just depends on the timing of the discussion

Agree. Naviance does not reflect the grades the students used to apply to the colleges, which can make it misleading given post-acceptance senioritis.

I am guessing their Junior grades are higher than Naviance grades. Many seniors relax a bit toward the end of year, so that will bring their gpa downward. Perhaps add 0.1 or 0.2 to Naviance grades to get their junior grades.

[Anonymous]

One quarter of grades (or even one semester) is not going to do much to a GPA unless your baseline is a 2.0 and you add in a quarter of 4.0.

My daughter had a 3.84 from a tough private and added in a semester of a 4.0 and now has a 3.85. Woo hoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course you include all HS course grades (including hs courses taken in MS). Why wouldn’t you?

UC colleges calculate sophomore and junior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that junior year senior year grades/rigor is the most important. The first quarter senior year grades affect ED outcome, the first semester senior year grades affect RD outcome. My understanding is that whether you include it in the calculation, the senior year grades (at least up to the first semester) is very very important.

Our school only does semester grades, so no senior grades are included in ED apps.

Same with MCPS, but our school sent an updated transcript after the first semester to any school seniors had applied to up to that point.

So ED and EA applications used the end of junior year grades, but if decisions were still in progress, the college could potentially have considered the updated grades in their deliberations.

[Anonymous]

The deadline for EA or ED for most schools is Nov 1 or earlier. Most make a decision by Dec-Feb without even seeing senior year 1st semester grades.

The only time it matters is if you’re on the bubble, waitlisted, or if they want to see increase in rigor or how you’re doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One quarter of grades (or even one semester) is not going to do much to a GPA unless your baseline is a 2.0 and you add in a quarter of 4.0.

My daughter had a 3.84 from a tough private and added in a semester of a 4.0 and now has a 3.85. Woo hoo.

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