Rec vs 3rd/4th/5th at a club level travel

[Anonymous]

What makes someone choose to pay over travel soccer fees to play on the 3rd/4th/5th/6th level travel team at a club versus just playing rec?

Besides the cost savings, there's also the time/travel savings that you wouldn't have to do that comes with travel.
if your dc is not in the top 30-40 players at their organization in the age group, what's the push to do "travel" soccer?

just feel like if a critical mass of people said enough is enough, "rec" soccer would be fine and the travel price gouging would take a hit.

[Anonymous]

Because being the 30-40th player at 8 or 9 doesn't mean they will be that low as they get older. Even with a bad coach having the opportunity to play 2 to 3 practices a week plus games and tournaments year round is going to help them improve faster than they would in rec. Being on a team with players that want to be there even if not the most athetic/ big is better than the rec alternative. Oh and because they spend more time together (tournament activities) they develop better friendships.

[Anonymous]

Reasons why-

-professional coach vs a parent
-tournaments vs no tournaments
-kids who have played before vs kids who have just signed up because their parents made them

[Anonymous]

Usually it is a simple as Fear Of Missing Out. Ball Mastery is super important at the younger ages for development. Even joining the bottom level travel team will develop soccer abilities 5x over most recent programs.

You are surrounding your player with other like minded players and families who are more committed to soccer. I loved my rec program, but the skill level and commitment was just not there. We had 9 weeks in the Fall and 9 weeks in the winter with 16 games total and 2x practices per week. When you compare that to the entry level travel program, the season is about 14 weeks in the Fall, 4 weeks in the winter and 14 weeks in the spring with 20 games, 2x tournaments, 2-3 practices per week and some kind of winter activity. All kids will develop significantly more over the rec program.

Rec kids have to start someplace, and that place is the bottom team (usually). But yes, there is high turn over that bottom team in travel. Each year, 3-4 kids will quit travel, 3-4 kids will move up.

But unfortunately. most of the rec programs are Run/ Hosted by the travel clubs, whose whole goal is to recruit players into travel sports. The deck is stacked against the rec teams in this setup.

[Anonymous]

My kids loved rec so I’ll never criticize it.

My kids just wanted more. They wanted to “travel” and they wanted longer seasons with the same team.

[Anonymous]

IMO, it's about practicing once a week versus 3x. And the "travel" on most of these teams is pretty minimal.

[Anonymous]

It makes no sense if your child doesn’t want to be there. BUT if your child wants to improve the odds are they will because they will spend 3x as much time on the field plus have a winter season and have professional coaches vs parents. They also have the fun of tournaments which is a big draw for kids. I have seen some kids on the lowest teams drop after a season but i’ve also seen some
really improve under those scenarios. We know one player at DC United Academy who started on the 4th (or maybe it was 5th?) team of a huge club. A lot can change between 8 and 13.

[Anonymous]

We started late and got into travel late. But my son has been craving actual structure and instruction, which he does not get at rec. He wants to be around like minded players and improve. Even if not in the top of the org. It means something to him that he was overlooked for a long time and finally made a team

[Anonymous]

We want players who will show up for practices and games. We want coaches who won't cancel practice. We want to have consistent practice schedules several times a week. We want decent fields to play on. We want to play in fun tournaments against evenly matched teams.

I would love it if there were Rec teams like this but unfortunately to get consistent, committed players and coaches we need to pay more money. It's still a decent value considering all the time and structured activities our kid gets over a full season. It works out to like 20 bucks a session.

[Anonymous]

My kid wanted more soccer, a coach who knew what he was doing, and kids who knew how to play (instead of kids who were brand new to the game). It was worth it for us to switch.

[Anonymous]

All of the above. Plus, you never know where your kid will be with some better coaching, environment, and more reps.

One of my kids made the third team at 9 from rec and is on the top team two years later and loves it.

[Anonymous]

We would have rather stayed rec but even with great parent coach lose 1/4 team (at least) each year and lucky if the parent coach keeps moving up with kids but once their kid stops, they (of course) stop coaching and team breaks down even further. Now if travel teams have parent coaches instead of paid at lower levels, I wouldn’t get paying more for that.

[Anonymous]

Lots of clubs out there offering something more rigorous than rec but less expensive/cutthroat than travel.

[Anonymous]

My daughter started in rec soccer and her athleticism compared to her age mates was ridiculous, even in kindergarten. By second grade some of the kids were only there because their parents made them. She is now on travel. She played rec volleyball just for fun this year and she was miserable again because the girls are just not athletic.

[Anonymous]

Rec kids don't always show up for games. When you pay, there's an added incentive to actually play the formality of it as weird as it sounds makes it meaningful. There's a spirit of seriousness you don't find in rec. as much as I agree travel soccer is a business, DD really enjoys the competition and the pride she has with a winning team that plays even if it's windy or cold or blazing hot out. We've played in freezing pouring rain and practiced in the same. There's a certain amount of discipline you have on a travel team you will never find in a rec one and this is true even if it's a 0-10 travel team really. You're in the system and as imperfect as it is, you still have the rules and participation required to be in that system and it impacts you at age 8, 9, or 10 or whatever. It's fun to play tournaments together as a team. In rec you play a 50 min fun game and then you are done. It's great but there's no commitment and no continuity and that's really what you get when you play travel.