Is this personal for a principal?

Anonymous
I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?
Anonymous
Had you spoken to the teacher about this matter? Honestly I would never go to the principal with an issue without first trying to address it with the teacher.
Anonymous
Why would a principal not be allowed to do this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why would a principal not be allowed to do this?


I didn't want her to know who was complaining about her not updating the gradebook.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Had you spoken to the teacher about this matter? Honestly I would never go to the principal with an issue without first trying to address it with the teacher.


I did complaint on this site, but don't remember emailing the teacher, my son might off asked her to update the gradebook, but not sure .
Anonymous
That is appropriate, yes. The teacher has to be aware of the issue so they can adjust.
Anonymous
So you didn't ask the teacher you just went straight to emailing the principal about something fairly trivial. No wonder people don't want teaching jobs.

You sound like a peach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Had you spoken to the teacher about this matter? Honestly I would never go to the principal with an issue without first trying to address it with the teacher.


I did complaint on this site, but don't remember emailing the teacher, my son might off asked her to update the gradebook, but not sure .


Well complaining on here will get you nowhere.

You should have spoken with the teacher first. If the teacher is unresponsive then you bring it higher up. But doing directly to principal is juvenile.

Imagine you are at work and someone wanted you do X, but instead of being an adult as asking you directly to do X they instead go to your manager to complain that you haven't done X when you has no idea they wanted you to do X. See the problem here?
Anonymous
To address your question, no, you have no expectation of anonymity.

Principals receive hundreds of emails every day, OP, they need to triage and delegate. They cannot investigate every issue on their own. Now the teacher knows the Principal is aware of the issue, so they will do their due diligence in responding. Your email was therefore not in vain. You invoked a higher authority (legitimately or not), and now it's on the teacher to act.

In the future, always ask the teacher first! Why would it matter that they know it's you? They are professionals, and have to answer questions.
Anonymous
I was a teacher.

It would have been nice if the principal had asked you if you had addressed it with the teacher before forwarding it. But, perhaps he thought you were professional enough to have already done that.

What age is your child?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?

The principal is demonstrating that they don't want to hear complaints about teachers, and if the parent complains they will reveal their identity immediately to the teacher.

How the principal could have handled it better:

1) The principal should have first privately replied to the parent inquiring if the teacher can been made aware of the concern and if so how many times.

2) Principal should have then approached the teacher privately, verified the facts, and only then loop the parent in as needed—possibly with the parent's consent.

3) When the parent brings up a concern with the principal, the expectation is that the administration will handle it discreetly, not immediately copy the teacher and reveal the parent’s identity. This can lead to awkwardness or retaliation concerns, and may discourage parents from speaking up in the future.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?

The principal is demonstrating that they don't want to hear complaints about teachers, and if the parent complains they will reveal their identity immediately to the teacher.

How the principal could have handled it better:

1) The principal should have first privately replied to the parent inquiring if the teacher can been made aware of the concern and if so how many times.

2) Principal should have then approached the teacher privately, verified the facts, and only then loop the parent in as needed—possibly with the parent's consent.

3) When the parent brings up a concern with the principal, the expectation is that the administration will handle it discreetly, not immediately copy the teacher and reveal the parent’s identity. This can lead to awkwardness or retaliation concerns, and may discourage parents from speaking up in the future.



You cannot be serious?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?

The principal is demonstrating that they don't want to hear complaints about teachers, and if the parent complains they will reveal their identity immediately to the teacher.

How the principal could have handled it better:

1) The principal should have first privately replied to the parent inquiring if the teacher can been made aware of the concern and if so how many times.

2) Principal should have then approached the teacher privately, verified the facts, and only then loop the parent in as needed—possibly with the parent's consent.

3) When the parent brings up a concern with the principal, the expectation is that the administration will handle it discreetly, not immediately copy the teacher and reveal the parent’s identity. This can lead to awkwardness or retaliation concerns, and may discourage parents from speaking up in the future.



Ha ha! No, not in large public schools, where the Principal has way too many things to do at any given time. I've had to deal with 7 Principals in my children's schooling (elementary to high school), and liked most of them. The rare times I've needed to contact them, I've received extremely short, terse responses - not because they're upset, but because they literally don't have the time. They solve the issue, tell me, and move on, in as few words as possible. And sometimes I haven't had responses at all, but someone else in the administration reached out to solve my issue, because the Principal delegated. Efficiency and time management are paramount. And that's fine with me, because all *I* want is for my issue to be solved!

No Principal is going to spend time tiptoeing around your little feelings. You need to go to a small private if you want that.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?

The principal is demonstrating that they don't want to hear complaints about teachers, and if the parent complains they will reveal their identity immediately to the teacher.

How the principal could have handled it better:

1) The principal should have first privately replied to the parent inquiring if the teacher can been made aware of the concern and if so how many times.

2) Principal should have then approached the teacher privately, verified the facts, and only then loop the parent in as needed—possibly with the parent's consent.

3) When the parent brings up a concern with the principal, the expectation is that the administration will handle it discreetly, not immediately copy the teacher and reveal the parent’s identity. This can lead to awkwardness or retaliation concerns, and may discourage parents from speaking up in the future.



If even 10% of the students have parents that contact the principal, that is 100 issues that, if handled your way, would be 100 hours of work.

No, that is not reasonable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I emailed them re a issue I had with a teacher, and she CC THE TEACHER, THE Teacher replay to the email.... IS she allowed to do this?

The principal is demonstrating that they don't want to hear complaints about teachers, and if the parent complains they will reveal their identity immediately to the teacher.

How the principal could have handled it better:

1) The principal should have first privately replied to the parent inquiring if the teacher can been made aware of the concern and if so how many times.

2) Principal should have then approached the teacher privately, verified the facts, and only then loop the parent in as needed—possibly with the parent's consent.

3) When the parent brings up a concern with the principal, the expectation is that the administration will handle it discreetly, not immediately copy the teacher and reveal the parent’s identity. This can lead to awkwardness or retaliation concerns, and may discourage parents from speaking up in the future.



If even 10% of the students have parents that contact the principal, that is 100 issues that, if handled your way, would be 100 hours of work.

No, that is not reasonable.


And actually I was assuming middle school, since this seems new to you. If it's high school, that would be 2-300 hours of work. Nope. Principal was right to quickly reach out to the source.
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