Full-Time AAP via Principal: At Risk?

[Anonymous]

Hi everyone,

My son is currently in 3rd grade and he is in the full-time AAP program this year by principal replacement.We’re very grateful for the opportunity and have seen how much he’s grown academically and socially through the program.

However, I’ve been wondering — is it possible for a student to be removed from the AAP program in the following school year? Are there specific reasons or criteria that might lead to that since he is principal replacement?

I already applied for aap full time but he got rejected and I’m wondering what is the case if he is got rejected from the appeal

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Yes, it’s entirely up to the whims of the principal and is not guaranteed year to year. Some of them have standards they apply (e.g., who are level 3), some just place them based on parent requests, and I know of at least one principal who intentionally places lower-performing students in the AAP classroom for equity reasons. You are absolutely not guaranteed a spot in that class next year, and I would recommend appealing if it’s important to you. Or being a squeaky wheel parent in your communications with the principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi everyone,

My son is currently in 3rd grade and he is in the full-time AAP program this year by principal replacement.We’re very grateful for the opportunity and have seen how much he’s grown academically and socially through the program.

However, I’ve been wondering — is it possible for a student to be removed from the AAP program in the following school year? Are there specific reasons or criteria that might lead to that since he is principal replacement?

I already applied for aap full time but he got rejected and I’m wondering what is the case if he is got rejected from the appeal

Thank you!

Yes, they can be pulled. Each principal will have their own criteria. There will be new kids added to the class who were placed there by the committee and if they class gets to big, they will remove principal placed kids. I am more familiar with the generic advice for Advanced Math students, high iReady scores, high SOL scores, and 4's in the class. I would guess something similar applies to LLIV aas a whole.

Did you apply in 2nd grade and he was not accepted, or did you apply in 3rd grade and he was not accepted?

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

I would wait until the appeal results come out. When my child was rejected from AAP in second grade, I emailed the principal before the end of the school year to ask that he be principal-placed. I included reasons why I thought he would do well in the AAP classroom. The principal responded with a short but kind email that they would take it into consideration. My son was then eventually principal-placed the next year, but I don't know if my email made a difference.

One note is that you might also want to include the AART on the email. The AART this year told me that she has some influence over who gets principal placed at our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

I would wait until the appeal results come out. When my child was rejected from AAP in second grade, I emailed the principal before the end of the school year to ask that he be principal-placed. I included reasons why I thought he would do well in the AAP classroom. The principal responded with a short but kind email that they would take it into consideration. My son was then eventually principal-placed the next year, but I don't know if my email made a difference.

One note is that you might also want to include the AART on the email. The AART this year told me that she has some influence over who gets principal placed at our school.

Actually, I was asking because my kid got in through principal placement without me emailing her, so I think they make their decision on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

I would wait until the appeal results come out. When my child was rejected from AAP in second grade, I emailed the principal before the end of the school year to ask that he be principal-placed. I included reasons why I thought he would do well in the AAP classroom. The principal responded with a short but kind email that they would take it into consideration. My son was then eventually principal-placed the next year, but I don't know if my email made a difference.

One note is that you might also want to include the AART on the email. The AART this year told me that she has some influence over who gets principal placed at our school.

Actually, I was asking because my kid got in through principal placement without me emailing her, so I think they make their decision on their own.

So you're saying you don't need to email her? That's fine too. I don't understand your question then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

I would wait until the appeal results come out. When my child was rejected from AAP in second grade, I emailed the principal before the end of the school year to ask that he be principal-placed. I included reasons why I thought he would do well in the AAP classroom. The principal responded with a short but kind email that they would take it into consideration. My son was then eventually principal-placed the next year, but I don't know if my email made a difference.

One note is that you might also want to include the AART on the email. The AART this year told me that she has some influence over who gets principal placed at our school.

Actually, I was asking because my kid got in through principal placement without me emailing her, so I think they make their decision on their own.

So you're saying you don't need to email her? That's fine too. I don't understand your question then.

No, sorry — I think you misunderstood me.
My kid is currently in full-time AAP through principal placement, and I’m wondering if he might be removed next year.
I’m actually not sure whether your email influenced their decision, or if your child was already on the waiting list and got in based on scores.
I don’t know if contacting her really changes anything, because when my kid got in through principal placement, I was surprised — I didn’t even know about this type of placement at the time.
But honestly, if an email might help, I will take that step — why not?
So I’m just asking: what’s the best time to send it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the helpful responses!

To answer your question — yes, I already submitted the appeal and I’m currently waiting for the result.

I also wanted to ask: if it turns out he doesn’t get accepted through the appeal, when would be the right time to reach out to the principal? Should I wait until the appeal results come out, or should I go ahead and contact her now to express my interest in keeping him in the program?

Also, what’s the best way to reach out — is it okay to email her directly, or is there a better approach that worked for other parents?

Thanks again for all the advice and insights!

I would wait until the appeal results come out. When my child was rejected from AAP in second grade, I emailed the principal before the end of the school year to ask that he be principal-placed. I included reasons why I thought he would do well in the AAP classroom. The principal responded with a short but kind email that they would take it into consideration. My son was then eventually principal-placed the next year, but I don't know if my email made a difference.

One note is that you might also want to include the AART on the email. The AART this year told me that she has some influence over who gets principal placed at our school.

Actually, I was asking because my kid got in through principal placement without me emailing her, so I think they make their decision on their own.

So you're saying you don't need to email her? That's fine too. I don't understand your question then.

No, sorry — I think you misunderstood me.
My kid is currently in full-time AAP through principal placement, and I’m wondering if he might be removed next year.
I’m actually not sure whether your email influenced their decision, or if your child was already on the waiting list and got in based on scores.
I don’t know if contacting her really changes anything, because when my kid got in through principal placement, I was surprised — I didn’t even know about this type of placement at the time.
But honestly, if an email might help, I will take that step — why not?
So I’m just asking: what’s the best time to send it?

Yes, I understood that. I was just saying that I sent my email before school ended. I realize that my situation was different in that my child hadn't been principal placed the previous year. But I think the end goal is the same - to have the child principal-placed the following year. I agree sending an email wouldn't hurt, and I would send it after appeal results come out and before school is over. I still think it wouldn't hurt to also include the AART because they might have influence over whether your child is principal placed next year. I wouldn't want the principal to forget about your email, and it wouldn't hurt to have two people receive your email that are involved in the principal-placement process. Just my opinion. I don't know the behind-the-scenes of when they make the decisions about class-placement.

I mention the AART because I talked to my school's AART this year about how I wanted my child to be accepted into full-time AAP so that I could be sure he would be in the AAP classroom next year. She reassured me that she did have influence over the class placement and she thought my child would be in the AAP classroom regardless of whether he was accepted into full-time AAP. Fortunately, he was eventually accepted into full-time AAP this year.