Teachers who are not gifted can somewhat determine if a 2nd grader is gifted???

Anonymous
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Does anyone else find it annoying that teachers with lower IQs than the students they are evaluating are determining if these students are gifted???? The committee who prepares and evaluates AAP Packets should be made up of gifted individuals who have high enough IQs themselves to qualify for AAP. Most of the students I graduated with who ended up being teachers did not do well in high school and went to schools like Radford. How are they somehow able to determine how gifted a child is?

Anonymous
I’ve read a lot of dumb things online but this really takes the cake.
Anonymous
This post is beyond ridiculous and incredibly disrespectful towards teachers. I’d say You should homeschool, but I think your children need to be out in the world amongst people who might better influence them to be better than what they’re seeing at home.
Anonymous
Lol
Anonymous
This is like saying all special education teachers should have special needs themselves.
Anonymous
I think a person can recognize giftedness without being gifted. That being said, I don’t think the committee is nailing it on understanding giftedness. Advanced academics, sure. Giftedness? No. But I’m not going to blame it on the teachers.
Anonymous
Isn’t this what IQ testing is for?
Anonymous
I agree with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this what IQ testing is for?


They don’t care about kids’ IQ/NNAT/CogAT scores, though.
Anonymous
AAP mostly is about accelerating math classes by one year progressively over grades 3-6. That's it. It's not made up solely of gifted kids and there's no way that it scooped up all of the gifted kids out of the GenEd classes. The whole program is flawed in so many ways with parents angling to get into a program that isn't even that great.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is like saying all special education teachers should have special needs themselves.


Anonymous
AAP teachers have FIVE years to complete the training/education necessary for teaching AAP once they accept the job. That means they can teach students AAP for 5 years before knowing anything about advanced students.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/165/1205085.page

From a FCPS Teacher:
“I’m a teacher and have seen how many teachers fill out the HOPE score. Most of them are inconsistent and depends on the kids behavior. The brief training the AART teacher gave to teacher was not helpful or thorough. Most ES teachers aren’t gifted themselves and don’t have a gifted education related background. I found it frustrating that many of them see misbehavior or acting up itself as a sign of not willing to learn even though some kids are clearly bright and bored. The fact that this random HOPE scale filled by a teacher within 1-2 min weighs more than Cogat, NNAT or WICS is unacceptable and preventing truly gifted from accessing the advanced curriculum. I have seen a 2nd grader whose scores are mediocre across the board but got in level IV solely because her AART teacher wrote a long essay on her GBRS describing how gifted she is.”
Anonymous
Please go ahead and f all the way off OP.
-Low IQ Teacher (of AP Chemistry)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This post is beyond ridiculous and incredibly disrespectful towards teachers. I’d say You should homeschool, but I think your children need to be out in the world amongst people who might better influence them to be better than what they’re seeing at home.


Thank you for acknowledging it. I’ve been teaching for many years. I’ve dealt with plenty of people like OP, who assume I’m unintelligent simply because I’m a teacher. Fortunately, my self worth isn’t wrapped up in what OP thinks of me. That’s OP’s burden to deal with.
Anonymous
Oh, wow. I feel sorry for your child. It's going to be a long road for the kid if you are this demanding. I'll say a prayer for your child.
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