How do you square competitive / cut teams in public school?

[Anonymous]

Our schools all have dedicated DEIA departments. But access and inclusion are cornerstones of DEIA.

How can you square allowing sports teams to have “try-outs” and then cut players, when that process is the opposite of inclusion and access?

[Anonymous]

In order to have a problem with this, you first need to agree with the goals of DEIA.

But since you posted this to make a point instead of ask a question, I don't know that you are interested in people's answers.

[Anonymous]

The purpose of DEIA is to get the best people for the position regardless of their unrelated attributes. And that is what putting together a sports team requires. There are only so many slots on a team, so many uniforms, so many resources to devote to each sport. And, some kids have no talent even if they have desire.

[Anonymous]

It's better to cut and then give reasonable playing time than to not cut and have a lot of kids sitting on the bench.

It would be great if more schools had a practice squad, or an intramural team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's better to cut and then give reasonable playing time than to not cut and have a lot of kids sitting on the bench.

It would be great if more schools had a practice squad, or an intramural team.

Intramural leagues seems like the answer to the access question.

[Anonymous]

no resources (fields, gyms) for intramurals. its a space issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's better to cut and then give reasonable playing time than to not cut and have a lot of kids sitting on the bench.

It would be great if more schools had a practice squad, or an intramural team.

Intramural leagues seems like the answer to the access question.

How is that really different than local rec leagues? At least in our county the county itself offers to pay for kids who can't financially pay for a rec league, so there's not a cost issue.

Trying to have high school sports, high school intramural sports, travel clubs, and rec leagues all use fields and gyms sounds like a nightmare in our area where field and gym allocation is already a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The purpose of DEIA is to get the best people for the position regardless of their unrelated attributes. And that is what putting together a sports team requires. There are only so many slots on a team, so many uniforms, so many resources to devote to each sport. And, some kids have no talent even if they have desire.

This. I have a kid with a hearing disability who also plays a varsity sport. She is good at her sport and also plays with a travel club. The coaches know she cannot hear instructions well when background music is playing so they accommodate that. If you have a kid that plays a school sport you will know that background music is prevalent at sports practices and during breaks in games. Instead of kicking her off the team because she misses instructions, they make sure she is closest to them in the huddle, or she is in a spot where she can lip read, or they assign a player to repeat the information to her.

The values in DEIA makes that possible, but she still has to be good enough skills-wise at the sport to make the team and earn playing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The purpose of DEIA is to get the best people for the position regardless of their unrelated attributes. And that is what putting together a sports team requires. There are only so many slots on a team, so many uniforms, so many resources to devote to each sport. And, some kids have no talent even if they have desire.

This. I have a kid with a hearing disability who also plays a varsity sport. She is good at her sport and also plays with a travel club. The coaches know she cannot hear instructions well when background music is playing so they accommodate that. If you have a kid that plays a school sport you will know that background music is prevalent at sports practices and during breaks in games. Instead of kicking her off the team because she misses instructions, they make sure she is closest to them in the huddle, or she is in a spot where she can lip read, or they assign a player to repeat the information to her.

The values in DEIA makes that possible, but she still has to be good enough skills-wise at the sport to make the team and earn playing time.

This is actually a great description of DEIA overall. Good for your daughter for earning her spot on the team!

[Anonymous]

you have a skewed view of DEI if you think a good comparison is HS sports cuts.

[Anonymous]

Tall people are some of the most discriminated in society. Imagine if you went into ninety nine out of one hundred stores and couldn't find pants that fit. Cars, planes, doors, desks, chairs, sawed off egos in businessess. We do pretty well in life despite, but that is some serious discrimination to overcome.

Oh but the average shaped people are upset that they have different colored skin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you have a skewed view of DEI if you think a good comparison is HS sports cuts.

Hahahaha, so much so I feel like this a trolling on some level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our schools all have dedicated DEIA departments. But access and inclusion are cornerstones of DEIA.

How can you square allowing sports teams to have “try-outs” and then cut players, when that process is the opposite of inclusion and access?

You are an idiot

[Anonymous]

Bigger colleges/universities offer intramural sports, and club sports.
My school had a D1 soccer team, a very competitive club team that played local college’s teams, and intramural teams that was usually based on dorms and were about fun - all were welcome.

I do think it’s a lot to expect a high school to provide both competitive and no cut teams for the same sport.

There are no-cut sports in HS if a kid is willing to try track, xc, crew - there are probably others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tall people are some of the most discriminated in society. Imagine if you went into ninety nine out of one hundred stores and couldn't find pants that fit. Cars, planes, doors, desks, chairs, sawed off egos in businessess. We do pretty well in life despite, but that is some serious discrimination to overcome.

Oh but the average shaped people are upset that they have different colored skin.

This is a joke, right?

- petite person who also can't find clothes that fit, but doesn't get the social/job market benefits that come with being tall (for ex: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214804314000640)