Senate Republicans set to bypass parliamentarian on Trump tax cuts

[Anonymous]

I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

[Anonymous]

This is idiocy. They know it but they've got to get their tax cuts in before they lose Congress in the midterms.

The summer, with the ongoing RIFs, is going to be brutal for Rs. I wonder if they'll be able to stick with this that long or chicken out/come to their senses.

[Anonymous]

So Lindsay Graham is killing the filibuster. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

Well they went along with passing the house resolution... I just think its so hypocritical that they say they are doing something about the deficit with such a massive tax cut to the wealthy at the expense of gutting public servants who devoted their entire careers to their mission..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

The deficit hawks say there's not enough cutting so they're probably a No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

The deficit hawks say there's not enough cutting so they're probably a No.

What else is there to cut? Can’t anyone be adult enough to say we can’t afford a tax cut right now.

[Anonymous]

* $6 trillion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

The deficit hawks say there's not enough cutting so they're probably a No.

What else is there to cut? Can’t anyone be adult enough to say we can’t afford a tax cut right now.

We could cut the defense budget. We could raise taxes on the very rich. In the halcyon days of MAGA, the highest rate was above 90%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

Those people only exist when a woman or black person is running for office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

If they have to get ten votes from Democrats it will lead to higher spending and taxes and debt than a budget that needs 50 Republican votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

Those people only exist when a woman or black person is running for office.

This made me laugh, it’s so true. Better to laugh than cry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

If they have to get ten votes from Democrats it will lead to higher spending and taxes and debt than a budget that needs 50 Republican votes.

The policy baseline magic math is what is destroying the budget now. This is a very dangerous precedent to set and it basically eliminates the purpose of having the filibuster. Dems can use this precedent to pass permanent Medicare for all if republicans are dumb enough to do this. They just need to pass it first for a single year then use the policy baseline truck to permanently establish a trillion dollar a year universal healthcare program. You don’t want to establish this precedent because it will allow Dems to use reconciliation to pass any and every spending proposal they want using magic math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

If they have to get ten votes from Democrats it will lead to higher spending and taxes and debt than a budget that needs 50 Republican votes.

The policy baseline magic math is what is destroying the budget now. This is a very dangerous precedent to set and it basically eliminates the purpose of having the filibuster. Dems can use this precedent to pass permanent Medicare for all if republicans are dumb enough to do this. They just need to pass it first for a single year then use the policy baseline truck to permanently establish a trillion dollar a year universal healthcare program. You don’t want to establish this precedent because it will allow Dems to use reconciliation to pass any and every spending proposal they want using magic math.

They are governing like Democrats will never have a chamber of Congress or the Presidency again. They are moving full speed ahead with the nuclear option:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/02/us/politics/republicans-senate-rules-tax-cuts.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know the reconcilliation bill is not one of those flashy topics people focus on..and it is extremely confusing. However.. this is an actual legislation that republicans have been working on and they are having trouble coming up with enough spending cuts to fund their tax cuts. Therefore, they are going to not follow the rules which excuses them from finding additional spending cuts and most importantly, make the tax cuts permanent..and not expire within 10 years.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5226747-republicans-tax-cuts-deficit-senate-parliamentarian/


"Under a current law baseline, extending the Trump tax cuts past 2025 would add an estimated $4.6 trillion to the deficit over the 10-year budget window and trillions of dollars more to the deficit beyond that window, according to the official budgetary score for the bill.
If the parliamentarian rules that Republicans must use a current law baseline, then the budget score for extending the Trump’s tax cut will show a huge deficit impact.
That would put pressure on them to come up with additional spending cuts to offset the cost.
And it would force them to sunset any extension of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act to comply with the Byrd Rule.
That rule prohibits legislation passed under budget reconciliation from adding to the deficit — either by increasing spending or reducing revenue — in the years beyond the budget window."

What do the deficit hawks have to say about this?

If they have to get ten votes from Democrats it will lead to higher spending and taxes and debt than a budget that needs 50 Republican votes.

The policy baseline magic math is what is destroying the budget now. This is a very dangerous precedent to set and it basically eliminates the purpose of having the filibuster. Dems can use this precedent to pass permanent Medicare for all if republicans are dumb enough to do this. They just need to pass it first for a single year then use the policy baseline truck to permanently establish a trillion dollar a year universal healthcare program. You don’t want to establish this precedent because it will allow Dems to use reconciliation to pass any and every spending proposal they want using magic math.

They are governing like Democrats will never have a chamber of Congress or the Presidency again. They are moving full speed ahead with the nuclear option:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/02/us/politics/republicans-senate-rules-tax-cuts.html

I guess the question is what are the democrats doing about it??