Franklin/Rocky Run/Carson

[Anonymous]

I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Makes more sense to send the Oakton kids to Carson--doesn't Crossfield already go there? Alleviates split feeder at Franklin.

[Anonymous]

They are using current numbers. Have they looked at the expected numbers? For example, Chantilly's freshman class is more than 100 fewer than its senior class. I would think middle school numbers may also be dropping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Maybe it’s simple for you because your child wouldn’t be affected? My child would be. It would require my child to move to a brand new middle school for 8th grade where they would know absolutely no one as their elementary school doesn’t feed into Rocky Run. It would be devastating to start at a brand new school for 8th grade, lose the connections to friends from Franklin, and then have to start high school. No thank you.

[Anonymous]

The goal should be to get South Lakes and Chantilly (via AAP transfers) out of Carson so that it only feeds to Oakton and Westfield. Next should be to get Westfield out of Franklin so it only feeds Chantilly and Oakton. Third is to get Oakton out of Jackson (via AAP transfers.) I don’t think it’s possible to fix the Oakton middle school feeder issue. Although I now see the logic of moving Waples Mill to Katherine Johnson since it’s so far from all the other Oakton feeders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Students who live within the base boundaries of Carson attend Westfield, Oakton, and South Lakes, but there are some AAP kids zoned for Chantilly who go there rather than Franklin as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Maybe it’s simple for you because your child wouldn’t be affected? My child would be. It would require my child to move to a brand new middle school for 8th grade where they would know absolutely no one as their elementary school doesn’t feed into Rocky Run. It would be devastating to start at a brand new school for 8th grade, lose the connections to friends from Franklin, and then have to start high school. No thank you.

DP. They could grandfather rising 8th graders. Long term sending as many Chantilly-zoned kids to Rocky Run as possible seems to make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The goal should be to get South Lakes and Chantilly (via AAP transfers) out of Carson so that it only feeds to Oakton and Westfield. Next should be to get Westfield out of Franklin so it only feeds Chantilly and Oakton. Third is to get Oakton out of Jackson (via AAP transfers.) I don’t think it’s possible to fix the Oakton middle school feeder issue. Although I now see the logic of moving Waples Mill to Katherine Johnson since it’s so far from all the other Oakton feeders.

The kids that go to SLHS that are at Carson had been at Oakton. There was enough heartburn about moving them from Oakton to SLHS that they did not move them from Carson to Langston Hughes. The SLHS kids should be at Hughes, it makes a lot more sense, but as a parent with a kid at Carson there are so many more options at Carson then Hughes. I can think of academic clubs that are crazy competitive at Carson that don't exist at Hughes. Honestly, we are looking at the same issue when we compare academic clubs at SLHS to Oakton. There is a reason why parents principal place to Langley, for AP/Russian, and Oakton, for AP/Japanese. The offerings at Carson and Oakton are simply better than the offerings at Hughes and SLHS. 20 years of experience has not much improved the offerings at SLHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Maybe it’s simple for you because your child wouldn’t be affected? My child would be. It would require my child to move to a brand new middle school for 8th grade where they would know absolutely no one as their elementary school doesn’t feed into Rocky Run. It would be devastating to start at a brand new school for 8th grade, lose the connections to friends from Franklin, and then have to start high school. No thank you.

DP. They could grandfather rising 8th graders. Long term sending as many Chantilly-zoned kids to Rocky Run as possible seems to make sense.

They could but they have already stated they won’t grandfather anyone except rising seniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The goal should be to get South Lakes and Chantilly (via AAP transfers) out of Carson so that it only feeds to Oakton and Westfield. Next should be to get Westfield out of Franklin so it only feeds Chantilly and Oakton. Third is to get Oakton out of Jackson (via AAP transfers.) I don’t think it’s possible to fix the Oakton middle school feeder issue. Although I now see the logic of moving Waples Mill to Katherine Johnson since it’s so far from all the other Oakton feeders.

The kids that go to SLHS that are at Carson had been at Oakton. There was enough heartburn about moving them from Oakton to SLHS that they did not move them from Carson to Langston Hughes. The SLHS kids should be at Hughes, it makes a lot more sense, but as a parent with a kid at Carson there are so many more options at Carson then Hughes. I can think of academic clubs that are crazy competitive at Carson that don't exist at Hughes. Honestly, we are looking at the same issue when we compare academic clubs at SLHS to Oakton. There is a reason why parents principal place to Langley, for AP/Russian, and Oakton, for AP/Japanese. The offerings at Carson and Oakton are simply better than the offerings at Hughes and SLHS. 20 years of experience has not much improved the offerings at SLHS.

Plus Hughes is considered the bottom of the barrel. Absolutely no one would stand for being moved from Carson to Hughes - they’d have a mutiny on their hands.

[Anonymous]

As a Waples parent, I like these options!

But also, the numbers and percentages are only as good as the data that are imported. And right now, it’s not right. They are going to fix one thing and break another.

[Anonymous]

Waples is definitely on the outer edge. But i wonder if it would make more sense if they Mosaic back to Fairfax HS like how it used to be. It's closer to Fairfax than it is to Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The goal should be to get South Lakes and Chantilly (via AAP transfers) out of Carson so that it only feeds to Oakton and Westfield. Next should be to get Westfield out of Franklin so it only feeds Chantilly and Oakton. Third is to get Oakton out of Jackson (via AAP transfers.) I don’t think it’s possible to fix the Oakton middle school feeder issue. Although I now see the logic of moving Waples Mill to Katherine Johnson since it’s so far from all the other Oakton feeders.

The kids that go to SLHS that are at Carson had been at Oakton. There was enough heartburn about moving them from Oakton to SLHS that they did not move them from Carson to Langston Hughes. The SLHS kids should be at Hughes, it makes a lot more sense, but as a parent with a kid at Carson there are so many more options at Carson then Hughes. I can think of academic clubs that are crazy competitive at Carson that don't exist at Hughes. Honestly, we are looking at the same issue when we compare academic clubs at SLHS to Oakton. There is a reason why parents principal place to Langley, for AP/Russian, and Oakton, for AP/Japanese. The offerings at Carson and Oakton are simply better than the offerings at Hughes and SLHS. 20 years of experience has not much improved the offerings at SLHS.

Plus Hughes is considered the bottom of the barrel. Absolutely no one would stand for being moved from Carson to Hughes - they’d have a mutiny on their hands.

I suspect this is why the students were not moved to Hughes when they were moved from Oakton. They already had a mutiny on their hands and it would have been even worse if they tossed that into the mix. People complain about the move from Oakton to SLHS today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Maybe it’s simple for you because your child wouldn’t be affected? My child would be. It would require my child to move to a brand new middle school for 8th grade where they would know absolutely no one as their elementary school doesn’t feed into Rocky Run. It would be devastating to start at a brand new school for 8th grade, lose the connections to friends from Franklin, and then have to start high school. No thank you.

DP. They could grandfather rising 8th graders. Long term sending as many Chantilly-zoned kids to Rocky Run as possible seems to make sense.

They could but they have already stated they won’t grandfather anyone except rising seniors.

Franklin is located in the middle of Chantilly neighborhoods. Some are walkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to pull this out of the Boundary Study topic because I think it's an easy fix and I'm hoping that someone from the BRAC or Board sees it. Copying the post below with some minor rephrasing:


If FCPS removes middle school AAP Centers, Franklin MS would be at 131% capacity with all the kids who can no longer go to Carson. HOWEVER Rocky run is only at 73% capacity. The simple and least disruptive solution would be shift some kids from Franklin who are already zoned to Chantilly to Rocky Run - it is literally the same 30%.

This also solves some of the split feeder issue, potentially removing one of the high schools that Carson feeds to (the prev post says going from 3 to 2, but doesn't Carson also feed Westfields? So maybe going from 4 to 3?)

Maybe it’s simple for you because your child wouldn’t be affected? My child would be. It would require my child to move to a brand new middle school for 8th grade where they would know absolutely no one as their elementary school doesn’t feed into Rocky Run. It would be devastating to start at a brand new school for 8th grade, lose the connections to friends from Franklin, and then have to start high school. No thank you.

DP. They could grandfather rising 8th graders. Long term sending as many Chantilly-zoned kids to Rocky Run as possible seems to make sense.

They could but they have already stated they won’t grandfather anyone except rising seniors.

Franklin is located in the middle of Chantilly neighborhoods. Some are walkers.

Ok, but what does that have to do with grandfathering?