Crate training...is it bad if I stop?

[Anonymous]

We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

[Anonymous]

We ditched it for nights but dog sleeps with us. Only when we go out.

[Anonymous]

This is user error on your part. The dog should never be allowed out of the crate while whining. Let it whine. It will learn that whining doesn't result in the attention it seeks.

If you let it out when it whines, you're teaching it to whine. It can be a rough couple of days while you let the pup "cry it out" but that's usually all it takes. Please do more research into the technique so you don't prolong you own misery (and the dog's).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

Pee pads are fscking disgusting. Train your dog.

[Anonymous]

I would not quit but you don’t have to leave the dog in the crate for long while you are home. I don’t think that will work. I would put the puppy on a short leash while you are home. Like three feet and they’re just with you all the time while you do chores and such.

[Anonymous]

IMO, crating when you leave the house and crating when you're asleep are collectively too much crating. Where does your other dog sleep?

I would keep crating when you leave, and also make the crate a fun snack place when you're home. Lots of short trips in and out of the crate, make it NBD to go in and stay a few minutes. But let him sleep elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

Pee pads are fscking disgusting. Train your dog.

No, they aren't. We use them. Makes our lives easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

Pee pads are fscking disgusting. Train your dog.

No, they aren't. We use them. Makes our lives easier.

You know what's even easier, especially long term? Training your stupid dog.

Pee pads are for lazy dog owners who don't want to put in the effort/work to properly train their animals.

[Anonymous]

Pee pads ARE disgusting and unnecessary unless you have an elderly dog. Since she can hold it, take her out every hour when you are home.

Crate training only one dog when the other one isn't also crate trained doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is user error on your part. The dog should never be allowed out of the crate while whining. Let it whine. It will learn that whining doesn't result in the attention it seeks.

If you let it out when it whines, you're teaching it to whine. It can be a rough couple of days while you let the pup "cry it out" but that's usually all it takes. Please do more research into the technique so you don't prolong you own misery (and the dog's).

I wait for her to be quiet before letting her out!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

Pee pads are fscking disgusting. Train your dog.

No, they aren't. We use them. Makes our lives easier.

You know what's even easier, especially long term? Training your stupid dog.

Pee pads are for lazy dog owners who don't want to put in the effort/work to properly train their animals.

My dog is trained. If she needs to pee, she knows the designated spots she's allowed to. I'm not having my dog hold it and risk a UTI. You are lazy and selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is user error on your part. The dog should never be allowed out of the crate while whining. Let it whine. It will learn that whining doesn't result in the attention it seeks.

If you let it out when it whines, you're teaching it to whine. It can be a rough couple of days while you let the pup "cry it out" but that's usually all it takes. Please do more research into the technique so you don't prolong you own misery (and the dog's).

I wait for her to be quiet before letting her out!

I'd only crate when you are out of the house. There are several no crate day cares and boarding places so that's not an issue anymore.

[Anonymous]

Crate training is not a requirement,.it is an option. If you don't want to crate your dog, puppy proof the area you want her to have access to and take the door off the crate so that she can go in and out as she wants. It's fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've had our puppy for a month; she's three months old. We also have an older dog and they're getting along well.

We have been attempting to crate train the puppy and it is not going well. She will eventually settle in the crate for naps (recommended by trainer) and at night, but will not stay in it for longer than 90 minutes without whining to come out, and it often takes 30+ minutes for her to settle down. I have not slept in my own bed since getting her. When I leave the house, she will bark and howl in the crate until I return. My nerves are shot and I cannot deal with the barking, whining, and drama associated with this F%&%cking crate: it also seems to make no difference in terms of house training. I know she can 'hold it' for longer than 90 minutes as she's slept with me on the couch for several hours with no accidents.

FWIW, we've been working with a trainer and practicing with Susan Garrett's 'crate games'. At this point, I'm inclined to just get pee pads and leave her out with the older dog: having her semi-relax in the crate for a few hours a day doesn't really help me.

Has anyone else ditched the crate?

Pee pads are fscking disgusting. Train your dog.

No, they aren't. We use them. Makes our lives easier.

You know what's even easier, especially long term? Training your stupid dog.

Pee pads are for lazy dog owners who don't want to put in the effort/work to properly train their animals.

My dog is trained. If she needs to pee, she knows the designated spots she's allowed to. I'm not having my dog hold it and risk a UTI. You are lazy and selfish.

Why is your dog left unattended for so long that they're "risking a UTI" if they don't use a disgusting pee pad? Get a dog walker, FFS.

You're cheap, lazy, stupid AND ignorant. Some people shouldn't be allowed to own dogs...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IMO, crating when you leave the house and crating when you're asleep are collectively too much crating. Where does your other dog sleep?

I would keep crating when you leave, and also make the crate a fun snack place when you're home. Lots of short trips in and out of the crate, make it NBD to go in and stay a few minutes. But let him sleep elsewhere.

Do not let a puppy be unsupervised. If you are sleeping, you aren’t supervising. My neighbors thought crates were cruel and they let their puppy sleep in their room. The puppy chewed and ingested the baseboard and paint. Lots of time and money at the pet ER convinced them that puppies shouldn’t be unsupervised at any time.