Roy Moore the Pedophile

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Anonymous wrote:When you’re a 32 year old man and you have to ask for a mother’s permission to date her daughter ... sigh. Try as he might, Moore and his mouth breathing supporters can’t be allowed reframe the issue as one of social norms relating to dating as a means of obfuscating sexual abuse of a 14 year old.

Interestingly - and sickeningly - one of the girl's mothers told her she was "the luckiest girl in the world" when she found out her 17 yr. old daughter was dating Roy Moore.

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Anonymous wrote:18-19 is a coed, not a teen. Guy was looking for a hot wife to have his kids, not some weathered single mother his own age.

Do 14 year olds make hot wives? What about 16? It really sucks he eventually had to settle for a weathered 24 year old.

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Liberals don't subscribe to this line of reasoning. They want be able to accuse anyone of anything and have it stick.

Like your batshit crazy right-wing Comet Pizza stories?

Yes, that was a batshit crazy right-wing story that only a miniscule number of batshit crazy people believed. You seem unhinged.

The National Security Advisor believed it.

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Anonymous wrote:When you’re a 32 year old man and you have to ask for a mother’s permission to date her daughter ... sigh. Try as he might, Moore and his mouth breathing supporters can’t be allowed reframe the issue as one of social norms relating to dating as a means of obfuscating sexual abuse of a 14 year old.

Interestingly - and sickeningly - one of the girl's mothers told her she was "the luckiest girl in the world" when she found out her 17 yr. old daughter was dating Roy Moore.

You know what they say about two wrongs ...

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Anonymous wrote:Rootin Tootin Roy better hope no more women start coming out or he will be in even deeper trouble. This guy is the Harvey Weinstein of Alabama politics. Maybe a quick trip to outpatient rehab can cure him too!

He absolutely knows more women are out there in the wings -- why do you think there's been such a ferocious pushback on this story this week? They're trying to intimidate the others into silence.

Here was a very curious paragraph in the Post story:

“According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.”

What that suggests is the Post found -- but could not report because they would not go on record -- softball players, YMCA users and mall visitors who were accosted by him.

Ok, NP here. I've been reading this back and forth with some interest and a lot of disgust, but this post takes the cake for gross assumption. NOWHERE in this paragraph is it suggested that the softball players, YMCA users, and mall visitors were "accosted" by Moore. You're spinning your hardest to make something out of nothing. You have no idea what that suggests, other than these people knew of Moore, were coached by him, and observed him at both the YMCA and the mall. Nothing more was stated or implied.

While the actual accusations from the four women are troubling (and unproven), those are entirely separate from your gross speculation and fervent wish that there will be more to come. I can't even believe there are people like you, so eager to fabricate something from nothing. Disgusting.

Why would an editor feel compelled to reference corroboration “from several women in the [softbsll] team” that Moore coached the team unless, when given the opportunity to respond to accusations of misconduct by these then-teenage girls (who didn’t want to go in the record), he denied even being a coach? And “encountered” is a rather interesting word to use in referring to someone who frequented the YMCA. And why does the reader need to know that “several women” knew him from the mall? You need to learn to read between the lines for what’s not been reported?

Wow. Tell you what. How about you write your version of events - since you so clearly know exactly what happened and what's not being said - and submit them to the WaPo. I'm sure they'll be happy to run your piece. After all, who wouldn't believe YOU?

Exactly where did he deny coaching softball? And what word would you prefer over "encounter"? I encounter lots of people on a daily basis. Today I encountered my neighbor at our mailboxes. I encountered a colleague of mine at the grocery store. And I hope I never encounter you.

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What did Roy Moore say when his date called him a pedophile?









...that's a big word for a 14-year-old!

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Anonymous wrote:We know that no one who supposedly knew about this never reported a thing.

Why wait until 30 days before a heated election?
That's not even enough time for an investigation.

Something fishy about that.

Dude he admitted to everything except the 14 year old saying that he always got permission from the teenagers moms before dating them.

He admitted to knowing at least two of them. He won't say it didn't happen just, "I don't recall" and "I dated a lot of young women"

Exactly. So what's going on here is liberals don't like that an older man dated women of legal dating age, and asked their mothers for permission? 38 years ago? How many men in Hollywood are married to much younger women? It doesn't matter if you think it's skeevy, even for 38 years ago. What matter is if it's LEGAL. Timeframe and location matter, as do norms sat the time of the alleged 'crime'.

Is there any concrete proof, aside from 'word of mouth' that Moore knew the 14 year old was actually 14, not 16? And didn't he ask her mother as well? And if so, why did they not say "she's only 14?" and if they said they did, where is the concrete proof of that?

1. He told her mother he would watch her daughter while the mother went into the hearing. Does that sound like he didn't realize she was a minor?

2. I grew up in the 70's and a 32 year old hittting on a teenager would have been considered gross and inappropriate.

3. Would you be fine with a 30 something year old dating your 16 year old (much less your 14 year old)?

1) Let's start with the fact that this is a one-sided accusation and that's what the mother SAYS happened. I would imagine the mother was expressing concern about leaving her daughter outside in a hallway while she went through court hearings, and he was answering that concern.

2) I am 56. Graduated in '79 up north. This was not unusual even up there, though northerners DID raise their eyebrows at it more. The south is a different place

3) If my daughter was of legal age, what I thought would only matter on a moral level, not a legal level. The problem here is that in order to make the accusations fit, it HAS to hinge on Moore KNOWING this girl was 14. I have no concrete proof that is true. And I don't believe in destroying ANYONE without concrete proof.

The proof is that he didn't come to the front door to "court" her. He had her sneak out behind her mother's back.

That is what you are being told. Perhaps she did that because she told him she was 16 and her mother KNEW she was only 14 and she didn't want to be stopped. Perhaps that's not what happened at all. There are plenty of teenagers that have lied about their age and snuck out of their homes.

Again, you don't KNOW what the truth is. You only know what they are SAYING is true. If this were any democratic candidate, you would be destroying this woman! In fact, it's been done....

Sorry you don't believe women. You are the very reason we don't speak up when harassed and molested.

I don't believe women all the time, no. There was just a woman in NY who claimed to have been harassed by men who lied and pled guilty. She lied because she didn't want her parents to find out what she was really up to. There was a woman who lied about being raped in college and the man was expelled and his name was trashed. There was a MAN in Atlanta blamed for a bombing who was actually a hero. There was another woman who lied and trashed the reputations a bunch of Lacrosse players at Duke.

That has nothing to do with women who have been molested and everything to do with the fact that yes, some women lie.

+100
And let's not forget everyone's favorite liar, "Jackie" from UVA who smeared an entire group of students with her horrific lies. These are the women we have to thank for making it harder for actual victims to be believed. But liberals don't want to hear about that.

"Actual victims" -- so you've already decided this 14 year old girl was not an "actual victim"?

Guess what, I still believe women and don't find it hard to believe them.

Excuse me? My post was a direct response to the PP before me who stated that she didn't believe women *all the time,* and why she didn't. I happen to agree with her. I said nothing about whether the woman who used to be a 14 yr. old girl was or was not an actual victim. Maybe she was. I don't know, and neither do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Rootin Tootin Roy better hope no more women start coming out or he will be in even deeper trouble. This guy is the Harvey Weinstein of Alabama politics. Maybe a quick trip to outpatient rehab can cure him too!

He absolutely knows more women are out there in the wings -- why do you think there's been such a ferocious pushback on this story this week? They're trying to intimidate the others into silence.

Here was a very curious paragraph in the Post story:

“According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.”

What that suggests is the Post found -- but could not report because they would not go on record -- softball players, YMCA users and mall visitors who were accosted by him.

Yes, careful reading indicates the Post found more women who encountered him through softball, the Y, and the mall. Those women refused to go on the record and who can blame them?

Careful reading indicates you've completely made that up. The post found people (of both genders) who witnessed him coaching, working out, and walking around a mall. There is *nothing* said about "women refusing to go on the record," nothing at all. Why are you lying?

Isn’t it past your bedtime Secretary Sessions?

That's your response? After making up all these other "women refusing to go on the record," and being called out on it, all you can think of is that? Really pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, GOP bible thumper turns out to be a hypocritical pedophile.

This story is as old as the hills, folks. It’s who the GOP are.

Yup. The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

Speaking of prosecute, I'm even more skeeved out to learn he worked for the district attorney's office while he was cruising the courthouse for targets.

The more pushback on this story, the more convinced I am that there's something much worse that hasn't come out yet.

The pushback is designed to prevent it from coming out.

The pushback exposed the political history of one of the ‘victims’. Best clean up better next time. #resist!

So someone who is politically opposed to the person they assert sexually assaulted them should not believed? I don't think I'd vote for a man who sexually assaulted me - in fact I'd probably be pretty committed to making sure he didn't get elected given his predatory history. Why does it shock you that these women are not Moore supporters?

The left prosecutes perverts. The right elects them.

That's a bumper sticker

Sure... like Harvey Weinstein?

Months of 80+ victims and he hasn't even been charged.
By the time the prosecution is ready,
he'll be on a faraway island.

Democrat Style, huh?

No not Democrat style at all.
What this ghastly thread shows is how hard it is for a woman to go up against a powerful predator. Unless you have tape or a witness to the assault it is hard to get justice in our legal system and your account and your motives will be questioned.
What has happened in the case of Weinstein, Spacey, Louis CK etc. is that they have lost their careers so there is a form of justice for these women and hopefully a deterrent to future bad behavior.
The talking point from the Moore campaign is that these women are part of some conspiracy (variously identified as Democrat, liberal media, Republican establishment). The "proof" is the timing of the story - just a few weeks out from the election.
That is not credible however. The Washington Post has been in Alabama reporting on this Senate race and for the first time there is a lot of national scrutiny of Roy Moore who is running for one of the most powerful offices in our land. As they reported the story they heard many accounts of questionable behavior by Moore as he began his career as a DA and before he was married. They heard accounts of him dating teenage girls and associated behavior (trolling shopping malls, attending high school games, coaching high school girls teams etc) that sounded questionable given his dating proclivities. They asked around and that is what brought them to the four women who were willing to go on the record with their experiences. The reports of these four women were corroborated by 30 sources many of whom confirmed that these women told them the same story either at the time it happened or decades ago. It is a well reported and credible story. The accusers and the sources are mostly Republican and it also sounds like many are Trump voters. My question is why haven't the Alabama media been covering these stories as Roy Moore has risen in stature and power in his state?

A woman who worked with Moore as a prosecutor is calling him out for dating teenagers and hanging out at the mall and high school football games. Eeeeewwwww.

Link?

DP. Here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teresa-jones-says-roy-moore-common-knowledge-dated-teens/
I wonder how many people defending this dude would leave their 14 year old daughter, sister, or niece alone in his presence?

Well, her mother was fine with it, wasn't she? Which is very odd.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one accusation that he is a pedophile. You don't find that odd? Usually, there is a pattern.

And, no, it would not be at all unusual for a guy in a small town to go to high school football games. It would be perfectly normal--that's where most of the town would be on a Friday night.

This, too, is absolutely true. My inlaws are from a tiny little town, and *everyone* goes to the high school football games. That's just what they do.

Moore’s problem, among many, is that Gadsden wasn’t a “tiny little town.” And are your inlaws okay with a 32 year old man with a law enforcement badge asking a female high school student on a date while he was at the school for the purpose of making a presentation? If so, that’s a pretty f*cked-up place. Nice try sweetie.

Yes, but isn't it funny that girl's mom told her she was the "luckiest girl in the world" when told her 17 yo daughter was dating Roy Moore. Yet I don't see you criticizing her mother. Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Rootin Tootin Roy better hope no more women start coming out or he will be in even deeper trouble. This guy is the Harvey Weinstein of Alabama politics. Maybe a quick trip to outpatient rehab can cure him too!

He absolutely knows more women are out there in the wings -- why do you think there's been such a ferocious pushback on this story this week? They're trying to intimidate the others into silence.

Here was a very curious paragraph in the Post story:

“According to colleagues and others who knew him at the time, Moore was rarely seen socializing outside work. He spent one season coaching the Gallant Girls, a softball team that his teenage sister had joined, said several women who played on the team. He spent time working out at the Gadsden YMCA, according to people who encountered him there. And he often walked, usually alone, around the newly opened Gadsden Mall — 6 feet tall and well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt, say several women who worked there at the time.”

What that suggests is the Post found -- but could not report because they would not go on record -- softball players, YMCA users and mall visitors who were accosted by him.

Ok, NP here. I've been reading this back and forth with some interest and a lot of disgust, but this post takes the cake for gross assumption. NOWHERE in this paragraph is it suggested that the softball players, YMCA users, and mall visitors were "accosted" by Moore. You're spinning your hardest to make something out of nothing. You have no idea what that suggests, other than these people knew of Moore, were coached by him, and observed him at both the YMCA and the mall. Nothing more was stated or implied.

While the actual accusations from the four women are troubling (and unproven), those are entirely separate from your gross speculation and fervent wish that there will be more to come. I can't even believe there are people like you, so eager to fabricate something from nothing. Disgusting.

Why would an editor feel compelled to reference corroboration “from several women in the [softbsll] team” that Moore coached the team unless, when given the opportunity to respond to accusations of misconduct by these then-teenage girls (who didn’t want to go in the record), he denied even being a coach? And “encountered” is a rather interesting word to use in referring to someone who frequented the YMCA. And why does the reader need to know that “several women” knew him from the mall? You need to learn to read between the lines for what’s not been reported?

Wow. Tell you what. How about you write your version of events - since you so clearly know exactly what happened and what's not being said - and submit them to the WaPo. I'm sure they'll be happy to run your piece. After all, who wouldn't believe YOU?

Exactly where did he deny coaching softball? And what word would you prefer over "encounter"? I encounter lots of people on a daily basis. Today I encountered my neighbor at our mailboxes. I encountered a colleague of mine at the grocery store. And I hope I never encounter you.

Seeing your neighbor at the mailbox was unexpected or by chance? Well, OK then.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one accusation that he is a pedophile. You don't find that odd? Usually, there is a pattern.

And, no, it would not be at all unusual for a guy in a small town to go to high school football games. It would be perfectly normal--that's where most of the town would be on a Friday night.

I’m guessing 7th and 8th graders might be a little intimidated to accuse the District Attorney of sexual abuse.

And where was it stated that 7th and 8th graders had anything to do with this?? Lie much?

14 YEAR OLD. Are grade levels different in Russia?

Russia, again? How stale can you get? Where I'm from, 12 and 13 year olds are in 7th and 8th grade. The 14 year old was a freshman, you dolt.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one accusation that he is a pedophile. You don't find that odd? Usually, there is a pattern.

And, no, it would not be at all unusual for a guy in a small town to go to high school football games. It would be perfectly normal--that's where most of the town would be on a Friday night.

I’m guessing 7th and 8th graders might be a little intimidated to accuse the District Attorney of sexual abuse.

And where was it stated that 7th and 8th graders had anything to do with this?? Lie much?

14 year old girls are in 7th & 8th grade.

Not so much. Nice try, though.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one accusation that he is a pedophile. You don't find that odd? Usually, there is a pattern.

And, no, it would not be at all unusual for a guy in a small town to go to high school football games. It would be perfectly normal--that's where most of the town would be on a Friday night.

This, too, is absolutely true. My inlaws are from a tiny little town, and *everyone* goes to the high school football games. That's just what they do.

Moore’s problem, among many, is that Gadsden wasn’t a “tiny little town.” And are your inlaws okay with a 32 year old man with a law enforcement badge asking a female high school student on a date while he was at the school for the purpose of making a presentation? If so, that’s a pretty f*cked-up place. Nice try sweetie.

Yes, but isn't it funny that girl's mom told her she was the "luckiest girl in the world" when told her 17 yo daughter was dating Roy Moore. Yet I don't see you criticizing her mother. Why is that?

I’ll type slowly for you. Her mother isn’t running for the US Senate, bible in hand as she rails about same sex marriage and says Muslims shouldn’t be able to serve in Congress. Try to stay focused.

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Anonymous wrote:There is only one accusation that he is a pedophile. You don't find that odd? Usually, there is a pattern.

And, no, it would not be at all unusual for a guy in a small town to go to high school football games. It would be perfectly normal--that's where most of the town would be on a Friday night.

Oh, BS. Single male adults do not attend high school football games looking for dates.

DP, but I must have missed the part where it said he was at the games "looking for dates." Link, please? And as for your insinuation that there are "7th and 8th grade girls" who haven't come forward yet - you are truly disgusting. You're pulling things out of your ass at this point.

So it’s PP who is disgusting, not Moore? Thanks for clearing that up for us.

I find anyone resorting to making up things that were clearly not even in the article to be disgusting. I've already stated that Moore's actions, if true, are disgusting.

If you're going to create fiction, just say it. Don't try and pass it off as fact.