FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Did Democrats take over the Great Falls Citizens Association so they could support FCPS School Board boundary changes? Saw earlier that the President and Secretary were unseated for their support of the FairFACTS Matters group.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Democrats take over the Great Falls Citizens Association so they could support FCPS School Board boundary changes? Saw earlier that the President and Secretary were unseated for their support of the FairFACTS Matters group.

That would be interesting. Kind of like Omeish taking over the Fairfax Dem endorsement meeting when the ousted Moon.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

What an unserious post. Can you even get to one bus being taken off the road? Let’s hear you quantify the savings, especially in light of at least one year of double bus runs (talk about transportation expense). Your approach would put many more buses in the road. It’s an unserious solution that is the hallmark of this school board.

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Anonymous wrote:I made the BIG effin mistake of voting for
some of these people school board people and I have major buyers remorse. I thought they would be sane, thoughtful, and fair. I'm a Democrat and much of what they said aligns with my views. BUT this boundary situation is an expensive mess and I've lost complete faith in Reid's ability to handle this with care. She has made so many missteps on other matters. The school board continues to be less than transparent while spending a ton of money to appear transparent. The smart thing to do right now is to table it until we figure out how Fairfax is going to fare with all of these upcoming federal changes. Instead the FCPS leadership is hell bent on creating more chaos and uncertainty. Did they forget that actual
kids lives are at stake here? You're upending their lives in the middle of an already turbulent time for our country and county.

You get the school district you vote for. One-party rule in Fairfax County.

"I'm a Democrat and much of what they said aligns with my views." That's your problem. You shouldn't be looking at the School Board elections like a political election. The job of the public schools is to run an efficient education system that focuses on educating children and leaves politics out of it. FCPS has been failing for years now.

The political hacks on the FCPS school board toss some red meat to their "I'm a Democrat" voter base, rile people up about Trump and woke political issues, the drones go and reflexively "Vote Blue" year after year for the FCPS School Board, and here we are.

We tried to warn you all as far back as 2019 during the last FCPS School Board election I paid attention to. The writing on the wall for school rezoning and bussing was clear to see to anyone who was interested. Anyone who spoke out against it was derided as a secret Trumpster intent on taking over Fairfax County lol.

We left for private school and never looked back. My property values are still tied to FCPS so I maintain a mild interest, but it's so ironic to see people talking about this issue now, six years later.

The opposition was busily discussing when Trans kids are an abomination, the candidate in my area had a truck covered with poster boards focused on Trans issues and only Trans issues and why Trans kids are bad, book banning and other such issues. When you asked them for a position on any type of educational issue, they waffled. If you want me to vote for someone who is more invested in education, run someone who is not a hate monger.

This should not be hard. But when you run a right-wing nut job whose only interest are on the fringe cases then you are not going to get my vote. I would rather vote for the person who is at least embracing treating people with kindness and inclusiveness over the fire and brimstone candidate.

I voted for moderates where I could. Run real moderates, not Mothers of Liberty who say one thing and then you do a google search and you read what they are posting and run the other way. Not the person who is openly discussing hating young people who are different than them.

The local Republican party needs to learn to read the room and run candidates that are less reactive and Evangelical, and they would win some seats. There are plenty of Independents and Moderate Democrats who are not happy with the school board, but I am not handing it over to people who actively hate other people.

FCRC would run more reasonable people if they could find them, I think. But why run when you're just going to lose?

Try running and you might win. Run the nut jobs and you are guarenteed to lose. I have no idea how many different people have posted but no one seems to listen. Many people are fed up with the school board but I am not voting for a MAGA candidate even if I am holding my nose to vote for their opponent. The Democrats have yet to learn that Moderates make more sense in any election, even when they lose the independents at the National and State level. I don't get it and I don't like it but I am not voting for the Mom's of Liberty or the Ban books that scare me crowd.

I don’t know what part of the county you’re in but the GOP-endorsed candidate in our district and some of the at-large candidates, while more conservative than their opponents, were not nut jobs.

I think a lot of people are trying to make themselves feel better about having voted for SB candidates who are now implementing policies they intensely dislike. The natural inclination is to let themselves off the hook by saying they simply voted for the lesser of two evils.

I think you have to own your decisions. You voted for one-party rule where any opposition to what the likes of Karl Frisch want to do is muted, and now they feel they have a green light to move forward with divisive and disruptive county-wide boundary changes, described back in 2018 or 2019 as the “nuclear option.” Enjoy.

PP who said FCRC would run moderates if they can, and where I live in 2019 for example they ran an utter nut job against - of all people - Megan McLaughlin. As a conservative (PP wouldn't vote for me because I don't think asking for explicit books to be removed from MS libraries constitutes a book ban. Kids can get them in the public library or parents can purchase them if they chose), McLaughlin was definitely the superior candidate as she was about as moderate D as they come around here. But from what I heard - and I don't have time to join any county level political committees - he was just literally the only option who was willing to run.

As your experience demonstrates, where they have options they do try to chose the best ones.

What was "utterly" nutty about him? It's not my district so all I remember is his name (Zia) and that he had one kid, and looked young. What did he say or do to make you question his sanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Did Democrats take over the Great Falls Citizens Association so they could support FCPS School Board boundary changes? Saw earlier that the President and Secretary were unseated for their support of the FairFACTS Matters group.

The GFCA has been dominated by lefties and Democrats for years. This is just some members putting neighborhood over solidarity to the Fairfax Dems getting kicked out by other dems.

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fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

Coates is overcrowding because there is tons of new construction. Coates is a relatively new school and FCPS dropped the ball on this. There is construction all over that area. There is a Silver Line stop adjacent to it.

Coates is under its own boundary review now. It will be interesting how it plays out. I don’t know much about the area but from looking at maps it makes sense to move some of Coates to McNair. And shift both to Herron (looks like some of Coates already goes there). With the growth in the area and open seats at Herndon, Westfield close to capacity, it makes sense. But someone said in another post it’s not the demographics they want to move for Herndon. So who knows

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

If they truly wanted to save transportation costs they would stop bussing kids all over the county to AAP center schools when their home school has level 4. For instance my kids walk to school but if we wanted we could choose to be bused to the center school 10 minutes away. Until this goes away a 2-9 minute savings on time for a handful of buses at most isn’t an argument

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fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

Coates is overcrowding because there is tons of new construction. Coates is a relatively new school and FCPS dropped the ball on this. There is construction all over that area. There is a Silver Line stop adjacent to it.

Coates is under its own boundary review now. It will be interesting how it plays out. I don’t know much about the area but from looking at maps it makes sense to move some of Coates to McNair. And shift both to Herron (looks like some of Coates already goes there). With the growth in the area and open seats at Herndon, Westfield close to capacity, it makes sense. But someone said in another post it’s not the demographics they want to move for Herndon. So who knows

Don't listen to that someone - that lie has been circulating for sometime.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

If they truly wanted to save transportation costs they would stop bussing kids all over the county to AAP center schools when their home school has level 4. For instance my kids walk to school but if we wanted we could choose to be bused to the center school 10 minutes away. Until this goes away a 2-9 minute savings on time for a handful of buses at most isn’t an argument

DP. Regardless of transportation costs and commuting times, one assumes they may also be looking at getting kids at McLean and Marshall out of temporary classrooms, which could involve moving kids from those schools to Langley and Langley kids to Herndon.

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fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

Coates is overcrowding because there is tons of new construction. Coates is a relatively new school and FCPS dropped the ball on this. There is construction all over that area. There is a Silver Line stop adjacent to it.

Coates is under its own boundary review now. It will be interesting how it plays out. I don’t know much about the area but from looking at maps it makes sense to move some of Coates to McNair. And shift both to Herron (looks like some of Coates already goes there). With the growth in the area and open seats at Herndon, Westfield close to capacity, it makes sense. But someone said in another post it’s not the demographics they want to move for Herndon. So who knows

Don't listen to that someone - that lie has been circulating for sometime.

Why is it a lie? Moving all of Coates to Herndon makes a high-FARMS school even poorer. I could see them moving a piece to Herndon ES and the Herndon pyramid but perhaps not the whole school. They could also move part of Coates to McNair and keep it at Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

If they truly wanted to save transportation costs they would stop bussing kids all over the county to AAP center schools when their home school has level 4. For instance my kids walk to school but if we wanted we could choose to be bused to the center school 10 minutes away. Until this goes away a 2-9 minute savings on time for a handful of buses at most isn’t an argument

DP. Regardless of transportation costs and commuting times, one assumes they may also be looking at getting kids at McLean and Marshall out of temporary classrooms, which could involve moving kids from those schools to Langley and Langley kids to Herndon.

Yep. This is the dominion effect of McLean having no where east nor south to expand. Building McLean, Langley and Marshall so close to each other has really backfired geographically. Langley will have to absorb McLean’s overcapacity which only further cuts part of Great Falls to Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

What an unserious post. Can you even get to one bus being taken off the road? Let’s hear you quantify the savings, especially in light of at least one year of double bus runs (talk about transportation expense). Your approach would put many more buses in the road. It’s an unserious solution that is the hallmark of this school board.

Wut. Anyways.

FairFACTS Matters posted that Reid discussed the need to assess transportation issues as a family vision meeting. She mentioned keeping some boundaries and only busing within a certain radius. The group discussed great falls as an example and those far west having to transport in. Seems against their equity and access goals but anything goes now!

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

What an unserious post. Can you even get to one bus being taken off the road? Let’s hear you quantify the savings, especially in light of at least one year of double bus runs (talk about transportation expense). Your approach would put many more buses in the road. It’s an unserious solution that is the hallmark of this school board.

Wut. Anyways.

FairFACTS Matters posted that Reid discussed the need to assess transportation issues as a family vision meeting. She mentioned keeping some boundaries and only busing within a certain radius. The group discussed great falls as an example and those far west having to transport in. Seems against their equity and access goals but anything goes now!

She likes to brainstorm. This seems really unlikely to pass muster with the SB.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

If they truly wanted to save transportation costs they would stop bussing kids all over the county to AAP center schools when their home school has level 4. For instance my kids walk to school but if we wanted we could choose to be bused to the center school 10 minutes away. Until this goes away a 2-9 minute savings on time for a handful of buses at most isn’t an argument

DP. Regardless of transportation costs and commuting times, one assumes they may also be looking at getting kids at McLean and Marshall out of temporary classrooms, which could involve moving kids from those schools to Langley and Langley kids to Herndon.

Yep. This is the dominion effect of McLean having no where east nor south to expand. Building McLean, Langley and Marshall so close to each other has really backfired geographically. Langley will have to absorb McLean’s overcapacity which only further cuts part of Great Falls to Herndon.

Heck yeah! They made a huge mistake when they built Langley and Marshall so close to McLean. Those planners back in 1962 and 1965 were just straight up morons. How could they not envision demographics in these areas 60+ years later?

Anyway, as we’ve discussed before, those attendance islands could be moved to Langley and Falls Church to solve the McLean issue without overcrowding either school. I’m not advocating for that to happen, just saying that your domino effect theory is just propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people finding out specifically what schools are up for grabs? Is if conjecture or is there info somewhere?

Conjecture. An educated guess based on the School Boards comments. I can fully see some of the border shifts that are being discussed, they fit with what the school board has laid out as their reasoning for redistricting.

But there is a lot of fear mongering with the hope that if the groups raise the alarm and FOIAing documents and pointing out how awful the school board is people will place pressure on the school board. This is coming from the same schools with the same posters. I would love to see an analysis of what percent of posters are responsible for the conversation in this topic. I suspect that a relativly small number of posters are responsible for the lions share of the posts.

Anyone who sees pros, to go along with the cons, is shouted down by the people who are violently opposed to any changes that moves their kids. There have been some good suggestions made in the topics, but they are hard to find.

I fully expect there to be large shifts in the Herndon, Centerville, Chantilly, South Lakes, Oakton, Westfield area because of the issues with over crowding and space available in some of the schools. The ES situation is problematic, and those shifts will affect MS and HS. That has been touched on a bit but for the most part the loudest voices have been the Great Falls and WSHS families.

FCPS is too big and really should be broken into smaller districts, but I doubt that is going to happen.

I think the opposition is fanning this flame - they keep bringing up Langley and Herndon all the time. It just creates a response. No where was that discussed in any meeting. But - there they are saying it will happen because of equity. The county, in their view, will pay extra, drive longer distances, just to bus people from GF Village all the way to HHS. Going after trans was the last election, CRT the one before, now it's equity driven boundary change.

From Forestville, 2 minutes longer to cooper than HMS. From Forestville, 9 minutes longer to Langley than HHS. Don’t take my word for it. Check on maps at relevant times of the day.

The narrative about transportation savings is a chimera.

That 9 minutes is significant if they are trying to save costs via bus. It’s not just traveling TO Langley, but also the time it takes to get to those neighborhoods potentially out of route.

What an unserious post. Can you even get to one bus being taken off the road? Let’s hear you quantify the savings, especially in light of at least one year of double bus runs (talk about transportation expense). Your approach would put many more buses in the road. It’s an unserious solution that is the hallmark of this school board.

Wut. Anyways.

FairFACTS Matters posted that Reid discussed the need to assess transportation issues as a family vision meeting. She mentioned keeping some boundaries and only busing within a certain radius. The group discussed great falls as an example and those far west having to transport in. Seems against their equity and access goals but anything goes now!

LOL. About as practical as the county-wide 6-8 middle schools.