Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2 - Summer school choice?

Anonymous
Of the three courses - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, which is the best for summer enrollment?

To the nutcases who are against summer school: stay out of this! To all others: please suggest!

Thank you,
URM SES parent
Anonymous
Geometry, for sure!
Anonymous
Def geometry. It’s a stand-alone area so if your kid doesn’t learn it very well (and no kid does in 5 weeks), it won’t impact remainder of math career, though will need more sat prep in geometry than most kids.
Anonymous
Algebra 1. If had strong 6th grade, this is easiest to consolidate over summer as will have it a lot of it already.
Anonymous
Geometry without a doubt. It isn't even close.

Do NOT do algebra over summer. The reason people don't do well in calculus is because of algebra.
Anonymous
FCPS won’t let students take Algebra I in the summer. A students first year of math and foreign language has to be a full year in FCPS. My son really wanted to take Honors Algebra I over the summer through John Hopkins CTY and was not given permission for the course to transfer.
Anonymous
FCPS won’t let students take their first high school class in summer school (so no Algebra I). Many students take Honors Geometry between 7th and 8th or 8th and 9th. FCPS doesn’t offer Honors Algebra II over the summer, only Algebra II.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Of the three courses - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, which is the best for summer enrollment?

To the nutcases who are against summer school: stay out of this! To all others: please suggest!

Thank you,
URM SES parent


None.

Summer school is just to rubber-stamp that the student mastered the material. Supplement in parallel with the school over one year, include the summer if you have to. That’s what a lot of student do by taking the class first at AOPS or RSM, then summer school to check the box and get the credit.

The year long instruction is 180 hours, and it’s typical to have one hour of homework for every hour of instruction. Compress that over 8 weeks and you’re looking at 7 hours a day, including weekends. Not sure why you’d want to do that to your child, but let’s assume you have your reasons.

There are no shortcuts. If you are ok with having a poor understanding in one of the, because you want to accelerate at all costs, choose geometry, it’s less connected to the rest of the math sequence. Algebra will matter more for precalculus, calculus and statistics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS won’t let students take their first high school class in summer school (so no Algebra I). Many students take Honors Geometry between 7th and 8th or 8th and 9th. FCPS doesn’t offer Honors Algebra II over the summer, only Algebra II.

Ironic, students with complete mastery of Algebra 1 are forced to waste their entire year of 7th grade sitting through what they already know instead of enrolling in Geometry. Oh well, summer geometry to the rescue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Def geometry. It’s a stand-alone area so if your kid doesn’t learn it very well (and no kid does in 5 weeks), it won’t impact remainder of math career, though will need more sat prep in geometry than most kids.

Most students taking summer geometry already are familiar with basic geometry concepts learnt from Khan Academy or similar source. So they are not going in cold.
Anonymous
Ugh we didn’t know so my child is doing alg 2 on their own(aops)… should’ve been counseled to take summer geometry. Online school has advanced session of it too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of the three courses - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, which is the best for summer enrollment?

To the nutcases who are against summer school: stay out of this! To all others: please suggest!

Thank you,
URM SES parent


None.

Summer school is just to rubber-stamp that the student mastered the material. Supplement in parallel with the school over one year, include the summer if you have to. That’s what a lot of student do by taking the class first at AOPS or RSM, then summer school to check the box and get the credit.

The year long instruction is 180 hours, and it’s typical to have one hour of homework for every hour of instruction. Compress that over 8 weeks and you’re looking at 7 hours a day, including weekends. Not sure why you’d want to do that to your child, but let’s assume you have your reasons.

There are no shortcuts. If you are ok with having a poor understanding in one of the, because you want to accelerate at all costs, choose geometry, it’s less connected to the rest of the math sequence. Algebra will matter more for precalculus, calculus and statistics.


This. Kids that took math in summer had taken the class at night/after school during the year prior- so if taking algebra in school, they took geometry at RSM or similar and then “took” summer geometry, which like poster above says was almost just like a final exam for what they had spent last 9 months learning outside of school. Then they rinse and repeat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of the three courses - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, which is the best for summer enrollment?

To the nutcases who are against summer school: stay out of this! To all others: please suggest!

Thank you,
URM SES parent


None.

Summer school is just to rubber-stamp that the student mastered the material. Supplement in parallel with the school over one year, include the summer if you have to. That’s what a lot of student do by taking the class first at AOPS or RSM, then summer school to check the box and get the credit.

The year long instruction is 180 hours, and it’s typical to have one hour of homework for every hour of instruction. Compress that over 8 weeks and you’re looking at 7 hours a day, including weekends. Not sure why you’d want to do that to your child, but let’s assume you have your reasons.

There are no shortcuts. If you are ok with having a poor understanding in one of the, because you want to accelerate at all costs, choose geometry, it’s less connected to the rest of the math sequence. Algebra will matter more for precalculus, calculus and statistics.


This. Kids that took math in summer had taken the class at night/after school during the year prior- so if taking algebra in school, they took geometry at RSM or similar and then “took” summer geometry, which like poster above says was almost just like a final exam for what they had spent last 9 months learning outside of school. Then they rinse and repeat.


It is not that simple. There are kids who take Geometry Honors over summer who have not taken RSM or the AoPS course/books and they tend to find the class pretty challenging. Even the kids who have already taken Geometry end up with 2 hours of online class a day, complete the homework, take the quizzes, and take the tests. It is probably 2-3 hours of work at home completing the homework and taking the quizzes. Kids who have not had the class before have that plus that they have to teach themselves most of the material.

Search on this board and the FCPS board, a decent number of students drop the class because it is too much. Others are asking about expunging the grade because the student earned a C or B and they need to retake the class any way.
Anonymous
Summer Geometry is an A for those already doing math enrichment whose content is a year ahead, which most are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of the three courses - Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, which is the best for summer enrollment?

To the nutcases who are against summer school: stay out of this! To all others: please suggest!

Thank you,
URM SES parent


None.

Summer school is just to rubber-stamp that the student mastered the material. Supplement in parallel with the school over one year, include the summer if you have to. That’s what a lot of student do by taking the class first at AOPS or RSM, then summer school to check the box and get the credit.

The year long instruction is 180 hours, and it’s typical to have one hour of homework for every hour of instruction. Compress that over 8 weeks and you’re looking at 7 hours a day, including weekends. Not sure why you’d want to do that to your child, but let’s assume you have your reasons.

There are no shortcuts. If you are ok with having a poor understanding in one of the, because you want to accelerate at all costs, choose geometry, it’s less connected to the rest of the math sequence. Algebra will matter more for precalculus, calculus and statistics.


This. Kids that took math in summer had taken the class at night/after school during the year prior- so if taking algebra in school, they took geometry at RSM or similar and then “took” summer geometry, which like poster above says was almost just like a final exam for what they had spent last 9 months learning outside of school. Then they rinse and repeat.


It is not that simple. There are kids who take Geometry Honors over summer who have not taken RSM or the AoPS course/books and they tend to find the class pretty challenging. Even the kids who have already taken Geometry end up with 2 hours of online class a day, complete the homework, take the quizzes, and take the tests. It is probably 2-3 hours of work at home completing the homework and taking the quizzes. Kids who have not had the class before have that plus that they have to teach themselves most of the material.

Search on this board and the FCPS board, a decent number of students drop the class because it is too much. Others are asking about expunging the grade because the student earned a C or B and they need to retake the class any way.


So, it is that simple. You either take Summer Geometry for rubber stamp after finishing a year of private study, or you have a terrible time and result from summer geometry.
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