They came for NOAA

[Anonymous]

https://x.com/WickyDubs2/status/1887519224014499956

So, looks like it's NOAA's turn. After NSF. They are serious about the 30-50% reduction in staff. The budget reductions will make it into the request and it's up to the Congress to decide. This too was in the Project 2025 playbook. NIH will be next (P2025 had a section on dismantling NIH or at least stripping it down to just basic science and turning the rest (or everything) into 50 different NIH-lites in each state (or perhaps ask states to form consortia to join forces). Again, is Congress up for that? How will that go into the budget request.

NSF was conspicuously absent from P2025 but looks it's not immune either.

[Anonymous]

If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

I work at the NSF. It did not seem like these were recommendations to Congress. They flat out told us to expect RIFs, anywhere between 30-50% reductions. All staff (SES, GS, AD, FedTemp, IPAs etc) were to be included in the RIF. There's not a whole lot of DEI stuff at NSF to cut. So a skeleton staff will have to manage everything.

I suspect the same thing is happening at NOAA and will happen at NIH, CDC, FDA etc. MoCo/NOVA economies will tank.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

I work at the NSF. It did not seem like these were recommendations to Congress. They flat out told us to expect RIFs, anywhere between 30-50% reductions. All staff (SES, GS, AD, FedTemp, IPAs etc) were to be included in the RIF. There's not a whole lot of DEI stuff at NSF to cut. So a skeleton staff will have to manage everything.

I suspect the same thing is happening at NOAA and will happen at NIH, CDC, FDA etc. MoCo/NOVA economies will tank.

Does NSF have a union?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

I work at the NSF. It did not seem like these were recommendations to Congress. They flat out told us to expect RIFs, anywhere between 30-50% reductions. All staff (SES, GS, AD, FedTemp, IPAs etc) were to be included in the RIF. There's not a whole lot of DEI stuff at NSF to cut. So a skeleton staff will have to manage everything.

I suspect the same thing is happening at NOAA and will happen at NIH, CDC, FDA etc. MoCo/NOVA economies will tank.

Does NSF have a union?

Yes, but only some (nonsupervisory?) employees are eligible.

I'm not sure on RIF process. Can just the president/Elon decide to cut? Is Congress involved in any way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/WickyDubs2/status/1887519224014499956

So, looks like it's NOAA's turn. After NSF. They are serious about the 30-50% reduction in staff. The budget reductions will make it into the request and it's up to the Congress to decide. This too was in the Project 2025 playbook. NIH will be next (P2025 had a section on dismantling NIH or at least stripping it down to just basic science and turning the rest (or everything) into 50 different NIH-lites in each state (or perhaps ask states to form consortia to join forces). Again, is Congress up for that? How will that go into the budget request.

NSF was conspicuously absent from P2025 but looks it's not immune either.

is this because hey are axing climate studies?

[Anonymous]

Is it all parts of NOAA? NMFS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

I work at the NSF. It did not seem like these were recommendations to Congress. They flat out told us to expect RIFs, anywhere between 30-50% reductions. All staff (SES, GS, AD, FedTemp, IPAs etc) were to be included in the RIF. There's not a whole lot of DEI stuff at NSF to cut. So a skeleton staff will have to manage everything.

I suspect the same thing is happening at NOAA and will happen at NIH, CDC, FDA etc. MoCo/NOVA economies will tank.

Does NSF have a union?

Yes and about 1/2 to 2/3s are represented by the Union. NSF also has a number of "on loan" employees as part of the Intergovernmental Personnel Act. They are university faculty who work for a short term (2-3 years).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If these RIF numbers are going to be recommendations to Congress, then there will be no RIFs. That's a relief.

I work at the NSF. It did not seem like these were recommendations to Congress. They flat out told us to expect RIFs, anywhere between 30-50% reductions. All staff (SES, GS, AD, FedTemp, IPAs etc) were to be included in the RIF. There's not a whole lot of DEI stuff at NSF to cut. So a skeleton staff will have to manage everything.

I suspect the same thing is happening at NOAA and will happen at NIH, CDC, FDA etc. MoCo/NOVA economies will tank.

Does NSF have a union?

Yes, but only some (nonsupervisory?) employees are eligible.

I'm not sure on RIF process. Can just the president/Elon decide to cut? Is Congress involved in any way?

I think a RIF has to be justified somehow? But I'm fuzzy on this.