What is T20

Anonymous
I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.


There is no consistent answer. This thread will just lead to squabbling.
Anonymous
The problem with the term is that it's commonly used without a definition or a source. You may guess, however, that "T-20," particularly when used by internationals, refers to schools ranked 1 through 20 in the National Universities category of U.S. News. For a ranking inclusive of universities and undergraduate-focused schools, consider alternative sources, such as this one from WalletHub:

https://wallethub.com/edu/e/college-rankings/40750
Anonymous
It's the Top 20 schools according to the WSJ rankings.

Princeton University

Babson College

Stanford University

Yale University

Claremont McKenna College

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Harvard University

University of California, Berkeley

Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus

Davidson College

Bentley University

University of California, Davis

University of Pennsylvania

Columbia University

Lehigh University

San José State University

University of Notre Dame

University of California, Merced

Virginia Tech

Harvey Mudd College
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's the Top 20 schools according to the WSJ rankings.

Princeton University

Babson College

Stanford University

Yale University

Claremont McKenna College

Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Harvard University

University of California, Berkeley

Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus

Davidson College

Bentley University

University of California, Davis

University of Pennsylvania

Columbia University

Lehigh University

San José State University

University of Notre Dame

University of California, Merced

Virginia Tech

Harvey Mudd College


lol.
wrong list.
Anonymous
It usually means the US News list, OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It usually means the US News list, OP.

However, U.S. News does not provide a general ranking of undergraduate schools.
Anonymous
The idea of a numbered ranking for schools was popularized by USNWR, whose ranking is still by far the most influential. But they themselves distinguish between universities with national draw (national universities), LACs with national draw (national LACs), regional universities, and regional colleges. So they and people in academia usually specify the category when citing rank. The most well known are the national universities, though the smaller national liberal arts colleges as a category are similarly regarded for undergrad study, even if a bit less selective. USNWR themselves state their list is intended as an input to the college search and not the sole determinant.
Anonymous
There are so many competing lists out there now (btw selling ads against "best" lists is big $ business). Each has its own methodology and each is problematic for its own reasons. Some rely heavily on post-grad salaries, which means STEM or business schools make up most of the top of the list. Some heavily weigh Pell grant or other financial offers, making large state schools appear stronger than they actually are. Others might look at online student surveys about "happiness" (talk about random), or the percentage of the freshman class that graduates in X number of years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.



Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell -- pipeline to The Street!
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.



Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC


Solid. I support this list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.



Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Solid. I support this list.
Okay, sockie. What's "UTA"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.



Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Solid. I support this list.
Okay, sockie. What's "UTA"?


Are you knew here? UT AUSTIN duh
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.



Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...

HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt

SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA

Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC


Solid list, but I would suggest one correction. Instead of Pomona, it should be The Claremont Colleges, whose top colleges collectively include Pomona, Harvey Mudd, and Claremont McKenna.
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