Retaking NNAT

[Anonymous]

Good afternoon!
I would love to hear peoples opinions about the idea of retaking the NNAT.

DD (second grade) is SUPER motivated to do AAP4 (especially since her 4th grade brother is in AAP4). I'm worried that with her current scores she would likely not get in. We are in a highly compative pyramid and she did not make the pool, but I self referred.

Her current NNAT is 124 (93rd percentile) and her CoGAT is 135 (99th percentile).
We are in a compative pyramid and she did not make the pool, but I self referred.

After receiving her scores we signed her up for retaking the NNAT at Mason. It was pushed from last weekend to tomorrow due to the snow and now I'm having some last minute doubts.

If she takes the NNAT tomorrow and actually does worse than 124, will it further hurt her chances to get in? Do they just look at best score? All scores? Average of scores?

Thank you so much for all your help as always!

[Anonymous]

Why the NNAT again instead of a WISC?

[Anonymous]

My worry is that the wisc results would not make it in time for the central screening committee?
I'm totally open to doing either or both if it will help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My worry is that the wisc results would not make it in time for the central screening committee?
I'm totally open to doing either or both if it will help.

You're not going to be able to submit anything else for the central screening committee at this point, unless your AART told you otherwise. Anything you do now will be for a possible appeal in April.

[Anonymous]

I would do a WISC and save for appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My worry is that the wisc results would not make it in time for the central screening committee?
I'm totally open to doing either or both if it will help.

You're not going to be able to submit anything else for the central screening committee at this point, unless your AART told you otherwise. Anything you do now will be for a possible appeal in April.

My understanding is that if you do the George Mason group testing this weekend it will be sent to the central screening committee before the end of January deadline

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My worry is that the wisc results would not make it in time for the central screening committee?
I'm totally open to doing either or both if it will help.

You're not going to be able to submit anything else for the central screening committee at this point, unless your AART told you otherwise. Anything you do now will be for a possible appeal in April.

My understanding is that if you do the George Mason group testing this weekend it will be sent to the central screening committee before the end of January deadline

I had no idea parents could add tests at this point in the process. That's not advertised anywhere. Fascinating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My worry is that the wisc results would not make it in time for the central screening committee?
I'm totally open to doing either or both if it will help.

You're not going to be able to submit anything else for the central screening committee at this point, unless your AART told you otherwise. Anything you do now will be for a possible appeal in April.

My understanding is that if you do the George Mason group testing this weekend it will be sent to the central screening committee before the end of January deadline

I had no idea parents could add tests at this point in the process. That's not advertised anywhere. Fascinating.

Only if you do the winter George Mason group testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would do a WISC and save for appeal.

This.
You need “new information” for appeal and this way you can see if it’s needed before you submit it. I’d go ahead and get the WISC scheduled though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would do a WISC and save for appeal.

This.
You need “new information” for appeal and this way you can see if it’s needed before you submit it. I’d go ahead and get the WISC scheduled though.

How long does it take to get the WISC results?

AAP notifications go out April 4th and appeals due by May 1st. Would it be possible to schedule WISC for April 5th or 7th and have the results in time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would do a WISC and save for appeal.

This.
You need “new information” for appeal and this way you can see if it’s needed before you submit it. I’d go ahead and get the WISC scheduled though.

How long does it take to get the WISC results?

AAP notifications go out April 4th and appeals due by May 1st. Would it be possible to schedule WISC for April 5th or 7th and have the results in time?

Ours took less than a week. They are aware of the FCPS deadlines and will work with you. But it's a good idea to schedule a head of time if you can because there will likely be a flurry of activity. I would see if they let you schedule for that timeframe now and you can always cancel.

[Anonymous]

I’m under the impression no one cares about the nnat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m under the impression no one cares about the nnat.

The 2020 outside report sure gave that impression, so much so that they said to get rid of the NNAT and FCPS had actually planned to do so. But then for reasons I never saw publicized they didn't. And now they use it as part of local building norms. So they must care a tiny bit. But I think it's a lot less than what they care about most (HOPE and then CogAT Quant).

[Anonymous]

If the nonverbal score is good in CogAT, then it should negate the low NNAT score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the nonverbal score is good in CogAT, then it should negate the low NNAT score.

OP here:
Her scores were:
Verbal-120 (89th percentile)
Quantitative 138 (99th percentile)
Nonverbal 129 (97th percentile)
Composite VQN 135 (99th percentile)