Travel with kids or when retired?

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Sad that the travel forum has become more dcum-like lately. Go away competitive trolls

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Anonymous wrote:We travel a lot now and also hope to do so in retirement and are saving aggressively to do so because as you note, the tolerance to deal with discomfort decreases exponentially the older you get.

When we were in our 20s we could travel in basic economy/Ryan air or the equivalent and stay at budget hotels and cram a ton of activities into a short trip without issue. Now in our mid 40s, traveling with kids we usually shoot for premium economy or at least economy plus if traveling overseas with our kids, stay in Marriott type hotels and always factor in a recovery day before returning to work. In retirement I imagine we will aim to travel business class, stay in nice hotels/resorts and travel to places for longer duration so that we can explore at leisure.

I’ll just do easier trips during retirement - so no sightseeing marathons, beach trips when it’s 110 degrees in Greece etc. I’ve never done Rome or similar things in August, which is insane IMO. I have 2-3 places on my bucket list left (India, Namibia/Tanzania, Australia/NZ) - the rest of the world I’ve either been to or I am just medium level interested. But I want to cross off that bucket list before I am 55. Unfortunately, I couldn’t travel that much in my 20s due to DH’s situation, but I just go without him now. No point in waiting for him.

Wow, you have seen the whole world? How many countries have you visited?

Dp I have no interest in seeing ' the whole world' just like I have no intention to read every book. First it is impossible and second there are places I have zero interest.

I think there are many places that would be amazing trips that we all can agree and some are ' niche' trips.

I always find it funny when op start threads because they only see one way to do something. There are quite a few...do what makes sense to you might not make sense to others. Point is live your life and
don't worry about other peiple.

Agreed. The PP comes across like an aggressive traveler, just like the other OP from that post coined that term. Competing over how many countries she visited, putting others down and questioning their “travel credentials”, lol. What a despicable way to live life and to approach the cultural enrichment of travel.

DP. +100. Aggressive competitive travelers are so cringe-inducing.

So are bumbling American neophytes clogging up major European cities in summer. The things I’ve overheard prove that American education is in a very poor state indeed

Ha! Those two groups are not mutually exclusive! Just because you’ve been to a lot of countries doesn’t mean you, say, speak the local language rather than yapping boorishly in English and aren’t a jerk. In fact, it’s quite likely you don’t know much (language, culture) about any particular place if you’re racking up countries rather than connecting with roots.

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Anonymous wrote:We travel a lot now and also hope to do so in retirement and are saving aggressively to do so because as you note, the tolerance to deal with discomfort decreases exponentially the older you get.

When we were in our 20s we could travel in basic economy/Ryan air or the equivalent and stay at budget hotels and cram a ton of activities into a short trip without issue. Now in our mid 40s, traveling with kids we usually shoot for premium economy or at least economy plus if traveling overseas with our kids, stay in Marriott type hotels and always factor in a recovery day before returning to work. In retirement I imagine we will aim to travel business class, stay in nice hotels/resorts and travel to places for longer duration so that we can explore at leisure.

I’ll just do easier trips during retirement - so no sightseeing marathons, beach trips when it’s 110 degrees in Greece etc. I’ve never done Rome or similar things in August, which is insane IMO. I have 2-3 places on my bucket list left (India, Namibia/Tanzania, Australia/NZ) - the rest of the world I’ve either been to or I am just medium level interested. But I want to cross off that bucket list before I am 55. Unfortunately, I couldn’t travel that much in my 20s due to DH’s situation, but I just go without him now. No point in waiting for him.

Wow, you have seen the whole world? How many countries have you visited?

Dp I have no interest in seeing ' the whole world' just like I have no intention to read every book. First it is impossible and second there are places I have zero interest.

I think there are many places that would be amazing trips that we all can agree and some are ' niche' trips.

I always find it funny when op start threads because they only see one way to do something. There are quite a few...do what makes sense to you might not make sense to others. Point is live your life and
don't worry about other peiple.

Agreed. The PP comes across like an aggressive traveler, just like the other OP from that post coined that term. Competing over how many countries she visited, putting others down and questioning their “travel credentials”, lol. What a despicable way to live life and to approach the cultural enrichment of travel.

DP. +100. Aggressive competitive travelers are so cringe-inducing.

So are bumbling American neophytes clogging up major European cities in summer. The things I’ve overheard prove that American education is in a very poor state indeed

Ha! Those two groups are not mutually exclusive! Just because you’ve been to a lot of countries doesn’t mean you, say, speak the local language rather than yapping boorishly in English and aren’t a jerk. In fact, it’s quite likely you don’t know much (language, culture) about any particular place if you’re racking up countries rather than connecting with roots.

And you would be wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:We travel a lot now and also hope to do so in retirement and are saving aggressively to do so because as you note, the tolerance to deal with discomfort decreases exponentially the older you get.

When we were in our 20s we could travel in basic economy/Ryan air or the equivalent and stay at budget hotels and cram a ton of activities into a short trip without issue. Now in our mid 40s, traveling with kids we usually shoot for premium economy or at least economy plus if traveling overseas with our kids, stay in Marriott type hotels and always factor in a recovery day before returning to work. In retirement I imagine we will aim to travel business class, stay in nice hotels/resorts and travel to places for longer duration so that we can explore at leisure.

I’ll just do easier trips during retirement - so no sightseeing marathons, beach trips when it’s 110 degrees in Greece etc. I’ve never done Rome or similar things in August, which is insane IMO. I have 2-3 places on my bucket list left (India, Namibia/Tanzania, Australia/NZ) - the rest of the world I’ve either been to or I am just medium level interested. But I want to cross off that bucket list before I am 55. Unfortunately, I couldn’t travel that much in my 20s due to DH’s situation, but I just go without him now. No point in waiting for him.

Wow, you have seen the whole world? How many countries have you visited?

Dp I have no interest in seeing ' the whole world' just like I have no intention to read every book. First it is impossible and second there are places I have zero interest.

I think there are many places that would be amazing trips that we all can agree and some are ' niche' trips.

I always find it funny when op start threads because they only see one way to do something. There are quite a few...do what makes sense to you might not make sense to others. Point is live your life and
don't worry about other peiple.

Agreed. The PP comes across like an aggressive traveler, just like the other OP from that post coined that term. Competing over how many countries she visited, putting others down and questioning their “travel credentials”, lol. What a despicable way to live life and to approach the cultural enrichment of travel.

DP. +100. Aggressive competitive travelers are so cringe-inducing.

So are bumbling American neophytes clogging up major European cities in summer. The things I’ve overheard prove that American education is in a very poor state indeed

Ha! Those two groups are not mutually exclusive! Just because you’ve been to a lot of countries doesn’t mean you, say, speak the local language rather than yapping boorishly in English and aren’t a jerk. In fact, it’s quite likely you don’t know much (language, culture) about any particular place if you’re racking up countries rather than connecting with roots.

And you would be wrong.

Uh huh, I’m sure you’re fluent in 20 languages and a sophisticated joy to be around everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Out of curiosity, what was the exhausting trip? How long and where did you go? I feel so sorry for all the doddering old people I see everywhere these days. Honestly, it’s downright dangerous for a lot of them to be out and about.

I know. They should all stay in doors, waiting for death☠️.

Someday you will be “they.” And I’m sure you won’t enjoy the judgment of younger generations.

But why didn’t they do it when they were younger? That’s what we’re doing.

The privilege on this board never ceases to amaze me. Not everyone can afford to travel when they’re young. Maybe they’re helping care for their parents, maybe they have a special needs child, so many reasons.

Tough luck. Plenty of broke people still manage to travel. It's called shoestring travel. You're coming up for excuses while others just did it.

I'm in mid 40s, heading to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip this summer. No shortage of fit hikers in their 60s and 70s up in the Alps. My mother is going to Ireland to visit friends, and then exploring the Scottish islands on her own for another week. And she's 76. It's all about what you want to do and your mindset. If you want to sit home and complain about being old/tired/broke, go for it, but I'm not listening.

You are compounding everyone’s bad impression of you.

It is NOT all about mindset.

Many if not most people could not even scrape together the airfare to travel to Europe, let alone the cost if even “shoestring” meals and accommodations.

And serious medical conditions (eg, Alzheimer’s, ALS, stroke) cannot be overcome with the right mindset.

You are a smug idiot, who better hope that karma does not try to teach you some humility.

That is not my problem. Why should I care? You are the one who is shrieking and whining and moaning but I'm not sure why I should listen? Not everyone can do everything, sure, but once more, why should I care? Maybe the day will come when I can't travel internationally for health reasons or because I'm 90 but I sure won't be posting on DCUM whining and moaning about travel "privilege."

Enjoy the fantasy that serious health problems won't plague you until you are 90.

Whenever they do hit, may you are surrounded by people with your approach to other humans, "Why should I care. That is not my problem."

I already am. I don't get jealous or whine when other people do things beyond my pocketbook or fitness level. It's not their problem.

What exactly do you want? Everyone to stay home to sympathize with you because you can't travel?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Out of curiosity, what was the exhausting trip? How long and where did you go? I feel so sorry for all the doddering old people I see everywhere these days. Honestly, it’s downright dangerous for a lot of them to be out and about.

I know. They should all stay in doors, waiting for death☠️.

Someday you will be “they.” And I’m sure you won’t enjoy the judgment of younger generations.

But why didn’t they do it when they were younger? That’s what we’re doing.

The privilege on this board never ceases to amaze me. Not everyone can afford to travel when they’re young. Maybe they’re helping care for their parents, maybe they have a special needs child, so many reasons.

Tough luck. Plenty of broke people still manage to travel. It's called shoestring travel. You're coming up for excuses while others just did it.

I'm in mid 40s, heading to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip this summer. No shortage of fit hikers in their 60s and 70s up in the Alps. My mother is going to Ireland to visit friends, and then exploring the Scottish islands on her own for another week. And she's 76. It's all about what you want to do and your mindset. If you want to sit home and complain about being old/tired/broke, go for it, but I'm not listening.

You are compounding everyone’s bad impression of you.

It is NOT all about mindset.

Many if not most people could not even scrape together the airfare to travel to Europe, let alone the cost if even “shoestring” meals and accommodations.

And serious medical conditions (eg, Alzheimer’s, ALS, stroke) cannot be overcome with the right mindset.

You are a smug idiot, who better hope that karma does not try to teach you some humility.

That is not my problem. Why should I care? You are the one who is shrieking and whining and moaning but I'm not sure why I should listen? Not everyone can do everything, sure, but once more, why should I care? Maybe the day will come when I can't travel internationally for health reasons or because I'm 90 but I sure won't be posting on DCUM whining and moaning about travel "privilege."

Enjoy the fantasy that serious health problems won't plague you until you are 90.

Whenever they do hit, may you are surrounded by people with your approach to other humans, "Why should I care. That is not my problem."

I already am. I don't get jealous or whine when other people do things beyond my pocketbook or fitness level. It's not their problem.

What exactly do you want? Everyone to stay home to sympathize with you because you can't travel?

I can and do travel. I just don’t share your mindset of having zero empathy for other people.

The fact that you are surrounded by people who also think that way speaks volumes.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Out of curiosity, what was the exhausting trip? How long and where did you go? I feel so sorry for all the doddering old people I see everywhere these days. Honestly, it’s downright dangerous for a lot of them to be out and about.

I know. They should all stay in doors, waiting for death☠️.

Someday you will be “they.” And I’m sure you won’t enjoy the judgment of younger generations.

But why didn’t they do it when they were younger? That’s what we’re doing.

The privilege on this board never ceases to amaze me. Not everyone can afford to travel when they’re young. Maybe they’re helping care for their parents, maybe they have a special needs child, so many reasons.

Tough luck. Plenty of broke people still manage to travel. It's called shoestring travel. You're coming up for excuses while others just did it.

I'm in mid 40s, heading to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip this summer. No shortage of fit hikers in their 60s and 70s up in the Alps. My mother is going to Ireland to visit friends, and then exploring the Scottish islands on her own for another week. And she's 76. It's all about what you want to do and your mindset. If you want to sit home and complain about being old/tired/broke, go for it, but I'm not listening.

You are compounding everyone’s bad impression of you.

It is NOT all about mindset.

Many if not most people could not even scrape together the airfare to travel to Europe, let alone the cost if even “shoestring” meals and accommodations.

And serious medical conditions (eg, Alzheimer’s, ALS, stroke) cannot be overcome with the right mindset.

You are a smug idiot, who better hope that karma does not try to teach you some humility.

That is not my problem. Why should I care? You are the one who is shrieking and whining and moaning but I'm not sure why I should listen? Not everyone can do everything, sure, but once more, why should I care? Maybe the day will come when I can't travel internationally for health reasons or because I'm 90 but I sure won't be posting on DCUM whining and moaning about travel "privilege."

Enjoy the fantasy that serious health problems won't plague you until you are 90.

Whenever they do hit, may you are surrounded by people with your approach to other humans, "Why should I care. That is not my problem."

I already am. I don't get jealous or whine when other people do things beyond my pocketbook or fitness level. It's not their problem.

What exactly do you want? Everyone to stay home to sympathize with you because you can't travel?

OP here. Maybe not being criticized for "bad choices" and "whining" when answering the OP's question about why not everyone travels throughout their adult lives. If you can't handle reading direct answers to the OP, maybe go somewhere less upsetting.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Out of curiosity, what was the exhausting trip? How long and where did you go? I feel so sorry for all the doddering old people I see everywhere these days. Honestly, it’s downright dangerous for a lot of them to be out and about.

I know. They should all stay in doors, waiting for death☠️.

Someday you will be “they.” And I’m sure you won’t enjoy the judgment of younger generations.

But why didn’t they do it when they were younger? That’s what we’re doing.

The privilege on this board never ceases to amaze me. Not everyone can afford to travel when they’re young. Maybe they’re helping care for their parents, maybe they have a special needs child, so many reasons.

Tough luck. Plenty of broke people still manage to travel. It's called shoestring travel. You're coming up for excuses while others just did it.

I'm in mid 40s, heading to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip this summer. No shortage of fit hikers in their 60s and 70s up in the Alps. My mother is going to Ireland to visit friends, and then exploring the Scottish islands on her own for another week. And she's 76. It's all about what you want to do and your mindset. If you want to sit home and complain about being old/tired/broke, go for it, but I'm not listening.

You are compounding everyone’s bad impression of you.

It is NOT all about mindset.

Many if not most people could not even scrape together the airfare to travel to Europe, let alone the cost if even “shoestring” meals and accommodations.

And serious medical conditions (eg, Alzheimer’s, ALS, stroke) cannot be overcome with the right mindset.

You are a smug idiot, who better hope that karma does not try to teach you some humility.

That is not my problem. Why should I care? You are the one who is shrieking and whining and moaning but I'm not sure why I should listen? Not everyone can do everything, sure, but once more, why should I care? Maybe the day will come when I can't travel internationally for health reasons or because I'm 90 but I sure won't be posting on DCUM whining and moaning about travel "privilege."

Enjoy the fantasy that serious health problems won't plague you until you are 90.

Whenever they do hit, may you are surrounded by people with your approach to other humans, "Why should I care. That is not my problem."

I already am. I don't get jealous or whine when other people do things beyond my pocketbook or fitness level. It's not their problem.

What exactly do you want? Everyone to stay home to sympathize with you because you can't travel?

OP here. Maybe not being criticized for "bad choices" and "whining" when answering the OP's question about why not everyone travels throughout their adult lives. If you can't handle reading direct answers to the OP, maybe go somewhere less upsetting.

Sorry meant NP not OP. I'm not OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Out of curiosity, what was the exhausting trip? How long and where did you go? I feel so sorry for all the doddering old people I see everywhere these days. Honestly, it’s downright dangerous for a lot of them to be out and about.

I know. They should all stay in doors, waiting for death☠️.

Someday you will be “they.” And I’m sure you won’t enjoy the judgment of younger generations.

But why didn’t they do it when they were younger? That’s what we’re doing.

The privilege on this board never ceases to amaze me. Not everyone can afford to travel when they’re young. Maybe they’re helping care for their parents, maybe they have a special needs child, so many reasons.

Tough luck. Plenty of broke people still manage to travel. It's called shoestring travel. You're coming up for excuses while others just did it.

I'm in mid 40s, heading to Switzerland for a two week hiking trip this summer. No shortage of fit hikers in their 60s and 70s up in the Alps. My mother is going to Ireland to visit friends, and then exploring the Scottish islands on her own for another week. And she's 76. It's all about what you want to do and your mindset. If you want to sit home and complain about being old/tired/broke, go for it, but I'm not listening.

You are compounding everyone’s bad impression of you.

It is NOT all about mindset.

Many if not most people could not even scrape together the airfare to travel to Europe, let alone the cost if even “shoestring” meals and accommodations.

And serious medical conditions (eg, Alzheimer’s, ALS, stroke) cannot be overcome with the right mindset.

You are a smug idiot, who better hope that karma does not try to teach you some humility.

That is not my problem. Why should I care? You are the one who is shrieking and whining and moaning but I'm not sure why I should listen? Not everyone can do everything, sure, but once more, why should I care? Maybe the day will come when I can't travel internationally for health reasons or because I'm 90 but I sure won't be posting on DCUM whining and moaning about travel "privilege."

Enjoy the fantasy that serious health problems won't plague you until you are 90.

Whenever they do hit, may you are surrounded by people with your approach to other humans, "Why should I care. That is not my problem."

I already am. I don't get jealous or whine when other people do things beyond my pocketbook or fitness level. It's not their problem.

What exactly do you want? Everyone to stay home to sympathize with you because you can't travel?

OP here. Maybe not being criticized for "bad choices" and "whining" when answering the OP's question about why not everyone travels throughout their adult lives. If you can't handle reading direct answers to the OP, maybe go somewhere less upsetting.

It's a travel forum, not a forum for hypochondiacs to ruin every thread whining they can't travel. Too many people shrieking "privilege" at capable people who mind their own business and get ahead in life.

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My mom is 80 and travels often. She has been to Egypt, Machu Picchu and the Galapagos, Turkey, Costa Rica, Vietnam/Cambodia and New Zealand in the past 18 months. We are going to Venice together this fall. We traveled some when I was a kid but not that extensively. I adore travel and dh and I prioritize it now with and without our kids. We look forward to lots more travel when it’s just the two of us. Much easier to travel as a duo than with 3 kids! But our kids are great travelers and we love exploring the world with them.

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Anonymous wrote:We travel a lot now and also hope to do so in retirement and are saving aggressively to do so because as you note, the tolerance to deal with discomfort decreases exponentially the older you get.

When we were in our 20s we could travel in basic economy/Ryan air or the equivalent and stay at budget hotels and cram a ton of activities into a short trip without issue. Now in our mid 40s, traveling with kids we usually shoot for premium economy or at least economy plus if traveling overseas with our kids, stay in Marriott type hotels and always factor in a recovery day before returning to work. In retirement I imagine we will aim to travel business class, stay in nice hotels/resorts and travel to places for longer duration so that we can explore at leisure.

I’ll just do easier trips during retirement - so no sightseeing marathons, beach trips when it’s 110 degrees in Greece etc. I’ve never done Rome or similar things in August, which is insane IMO. I have 2-3 places on my bucket list left (India, Namibia/Tanzania, Australia/NZ) - the rest of the world I’ve either been to or I am just medium level interested. But I want to cross off that bucket list before I am 55. Unfortunately, I couldn’t travel that much in my 20s due to DH’s situation, but I just go without him now. No point in waiting for him.

Wow, you have seen the whole world? How many countries have you visited?

Dp I have no interest in seeing ' the whole world' just like I have no intention to read every book. First it is impossible and second there are places I have zero interest.

I think there are many places that would be amazing trips that we all can agree and some are ' niche' trips.

I always find it funny when op start threads because they only see one way to do something. There are quite a few...do what makes sense to you might not make sense to others. Point is live your life and
don't worry about other peiple.

Agreed. The PP comes across like an aggressive traveler, just like the other OP from that post coined that term. Competing over how many countries she visited, putting others down and questioning their “travel credentials”, lol. What a despicable way to live life and to approach the cultural enrichment of travel.

DP. +100. Aggressive competitive travelers are so cringe-inducing.

So are people who think travel only counts if it’s an immersion experience in a 3rd world country.

I lived in a couple of 3rd world countries as a kid/teen thanks to my father’s job and we were always so happy to get to London or a similar place. “Cultural enrichment” included misogony, sexual harassment as a tween, and death to America chants. No desire to replicate that experience on vacation. I’m still happy to go to London!

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To all those screaming "privilege!" about other people's travel plans: these people are answering OP's question. If your answer is "neither, I can't afford it," that's your answer. That doesn't mean the rest of us can't answer honestly.

(Same goes for all of you who are planning to be too crippled to travel when older. That's fine, but not all of us are.)

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Anonymous wrote:We travel a lot now and also hope to do so in retirement and are saving aggressively to do so because as you note, the tolerance to deal with discomfort decreases exponentially the older you get.

When we were in our 20s we could travel in basic economy/Ryan air or the equivalent and stay at budget hotels and cram a ton of activities into a short trip without issue. Now in our mid 40s, traveling with kids we usually shoot for premium economy or at least economy plus if traveling overseas with our kids, stay in Marriott type hotels and always factor in a recovery day before returning to work. In retirement I imagine we will aim to travel business class, stay in nice hotels/resorts and travel to places for longer duration so that we can explore at leisure.

I’ll just do easier trips during retirement - so no sightseeing marathons, beach trips when it’s 110 degrees in Greece etc. I’ve never done Rome or similar things in August, which is insane IMO. I have 2-3 places on my bucket list left (India, Namibia/Tanzania, Australia/NZ) - the rest of the world I’ve either been to or I am just medium level interested. But I want to cross off that bucket list before I am 55. Unfortunately, I couldn’t travel that much in my 20s due to DH’s situation, but I just go without him now. No point in waiting for him.

Wow, you have seen the whole world? How many countries have you visited?

Dp I have no interest in seeing ' the whole world' just like I have no intention to read every book. First it is impossible and second there are places I have zero interest.

I think there are many places that would be amazing trips that we all can agree and some are ' niche' trips.

I always find it funny when op start threads because they only see one way to do something. There are quite a few...do what makes sense to you might not make sense to others. Point is live your life and
don't worry about other peiple.

Agreed. The PP comes across like an aggressive traveler, just like the other OP from that post coined that term. Competing over how many countries she visited, putting others down and questioning their “travel credentials”, lol. What a despicable way to live life and to approach the cultural enrichment of travel.

DP. +100. Aggressive competitive travelers are so cringe-inducing.

So are people who think travel only counts if it’s an immersion experience in a 3rd world country.

I lived in a couple of 3rd world countries as a kid/teen thanks to my father’s job and we were always so happy to get to London or a similar place. “Cultural enrichment” included misogony, sexual harassment as a tween, and death to America chants. No desire to replicate that experience on vacation. I’m still happy to go to London!

Don’t disagree! You do you. No need to consider your travel preferences inherently better than others’!

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Anonymous wrote:Sad that the travel forum has become more dcum-like lately. Go away competitive trolls

Has become? It’s been like this since I can remember. I don’t think it’s the majority of people but there’s def a subset of folks who bring their competitiveness/insecurity about SES into travel.

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Anonymous wrote:To all those screaming "privilege!" about other people's travel plans: these people are answering OP's question. If your answer is "neither, I can't afford it," that's your answer. That doesn't mean the rest of us can't answer honestly.

(Same goes for all of you who are planning to be too crippled to travel when older. That's fine, but not all of us are.)

That’s not privilege, that’s just arrogance. You have no idea what your health will look like in the future.