Denison’s rise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

And we know yours, Dobbs dork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

I don't have an agenda, but I don't think it is productive to just dismiss colleges in red states outright. As a fairly liberal parent with two children going to college in Ohio, I think it's important to recognize that no state is entirely "red" or "blue." For example, Ohio passed a constitutional amendment ensuring access to abortion last year. Additionally, one of Ohio's Senators is Sherrod Brown, a progressive senator who has consistently advocated for liberal values. (By the way, his spouse, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer-author Connie Schultz, is a professor at Denison). Broad generalizations aren't helpful. I'd encourage people not to rule out schools in red states without taking a closer look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

I don't have an agenda, but I don't think it is productive to just dismiss colleges in red states outright. As a fairly liberal parent with two children going to college in Ohio, I think it's important to recognize that no state is entirely "red" or "blue." For example, Ohio passed a constitutional amendment ensuring access to abortion last year. Additionally, one of Ohio's Senators is Sherrod Brown, a progressive senator who has consistently advocated for liberal values. (By the way, his spouse, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer-author Connie Schultz, is a professor at Denison). Broad generalizations aren't helpful. I'd encourage people not to rule out schools in red states without taking a closer look.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

I don't have an agenda, but I don't think it is productive to just dismiss colleges in red states outright. As a fairly liberal parent with two children going to college in Ohio, I think it's important to recognize that no state is entirely "red" or "blue." For example, Ohio passed a constitutional amendment ensuring access to abortion last year. Additionally, one of Ohio's Senators is Sherrod Brown, a progressive senator who has consistently advocated for liberal values. (By the way, his spouse, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer-author Connie Schultz, is a professor at Denison). Broad generalizations aren't helpful. I'd encourage people not to rule out schools in red states without taking a closer look.

I agree with you, but those posters I'm referring to aren't doing these colleges any favors with their rhetoric (pink haired boys, etc.) On the other hand, some posts have made Denison sound appealing and worth doing some research on.

And kudos to Sherrod Brown and his wife for fighting the good fight. However, it was also a Republican senator from OH who, just this weekend on a Face the Nation, opined that Viktor Orban has made some smart decisions for his country, one of which was seizing control of universities and putting them in foundations run by his cronies. Aren't we already seeing something similar happening in Florida, and perhaps Indiana, others as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

I don't have an agenda, but I don't think it is productive to just dismiss colleges in red states outright. As a fairly liberal parent with two children going to college in Ohio, I think it's important to recognize that no state is entirely "red" or "blue." For example, Ohio passed a constitutional amendment ensuring access to abortion last year. Additionally, one of Ohio's Senators is Sherrod Brown, a progressive senator who has consistently advocated for liberal values. (By the way, his spouse, Pulitzer Prize-winning writer-author Connie Schultz, is a professor at Denison). Broad generalizations aren't helpful. I'd encourage people not to rule out schools in red states without taking a closer look.

I agree with you, but those posters I'm referring to aren't doing these colleges any favors with their rhetoric (pink haired boys, etc.) On the other hand, some posts have made Denison sound appealing and worth doing some research on.

And kudos to Sherrod Brown and his wife for fighting the good fight. However, it was also a Republican senator from OH who, just this weekend on a Face the Nation, opined that Viktor Orban has made some smart decisions for his country, one of which was seizing control of universities and putting them in foundations run by his cronies. Aren't we already seeing something similar happening in Florida, and perhaps Indiana, others as well?

And Virginia? https://www.vpm.org/news/2023-06-29/youngkin-board-of-visitors-appointments-republican-donors-uva
To be fair, I don’t think it’s anything like the Florida takeover.

And yes, I agree the pink hair commenters are exhausting.

[Anonymous]

I just noticed that Denison rose to 32 on Niche for Liberal Arts Colleges.

Not sure when that happened.

And while I often post in support of Denison in this forum I am surprised by the extent of this rise.

Schools like Kenyon were always regarded as more academic and/or intellectual. I would suspect they still are.

I do think it has a lot to offer - nice school - decent size and a cute town but that’s quite the run they have had…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just noticed that Denison rose to 32 on Niche for Liberal Arts Colleges.

Not sure when that happened.

And while I often post in support of Denison in this forum I am surprised by the extent of this rise.

Schools like Kenyon were always regarded as more academic and/or intellectual. I would suspect they still are.

I do think it has a lot to offer - nice school - decent size and a cute town but that’s quite the run they have had…

There are a lot of extremely bright kids getting shut out of higher ranked schools. They fall, and the schools they land in rise.

[Anonymous]

Clearly Denison is doing a lot of things right by respecting and listening to all opinions from the center, left and right. Whereas many northeast LAC are run by individuals who ram down your throat the progressive left , woke , DEI ideology and if it’s not their way it’s the highway.

[Anonymous]

Denison was long considered a peer of schools like DePauw and Gettysburg, but these days it’s more like a slightly smaller Bucknell. While it doesn't yet have the same pipeline to lucrative IB and MC jobs, it's attracting a similar type of student and offers plenty of opportunities thanks to its $1B-plus endowment. As it graduates more classes of talented, well-connected students, its network on The Street will grow. Denison is definitely a value buy right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Denison was long considered a peer of schools like DePauw and Gettysburg, but these days it’s more like a slightly smaller Bucknell. While it doesn't yet have the same pipeline to lucrative IB and MC jobs, it's attracting a similar type of student and offers plenty of opportunities thanks to its $1B-plus endowment. As it graduates more classes of talented, well-connected students, its network on The Street will grow. Denison is definitely a value buy right now.

stop it Bucknell troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

some people probably expect Denison to be located in a flat, treeless prairie-type setting, and are pleased to find its campus is lush & not flat. It feels more like a New England college than a typical Midwestern school.

And, while we still joke around about Ohio, Granville is an adorable village with a New England vibe

You sort of have to admire how unabashed DCUM's self-styled coastal sophisticates are about advertising ... uh ... the gaps in their historical awareness. Ohio was originally settled as Connecticut's Western Reserve (name ring a bell?), extending from Pennsylvania's western border theoretically as far as the Pacific. And while the Western Reserve didn't cover all of Ohio, and the territorial claims were soon ceded by Connecticut in the early 19th century, a lot of the development of the northern half of Ohio prior to the Industrial Revolution followed New England cultural patterns. That explains why a lot of small Ohio villages look a lot like New England ones, and why Ohio has a lot of rural SLACs on the New England model, relative to other Great Lakes states (and also why Cleveland was build around a 'public square" like cities in New England, and also why abolitionist sentiment was so strong in Ohio, like in New England, making Ohio the 'northern trunk line' of the Underground Railroad). That Granville (founded 1802) and Denison (founded 1831) have a New England feel is hardly surprising.

As for expecting Ohio to be flat and treeless like Kansas or Illinois ... can't help you there.

And much of Illinois, Indiana, Wisonsin, Iowa, Michigan, etc. is rolling hills with pretty little, (or vibrant land grant) college towns. I don't think of them as evoking New England as much as just being midwestern college towns.

[Anonymous]

They are rising, for sure, will keep jumping. Pres Weinberg has used the strong per student endowment to great use (ahead of Colgate, Bucknell, Middlebury, Wesleyan, Holy Cross, Trinity) Columbus is fast growing tech city only 25 min from campus in Granville. Which is picture perfect town with real amenities, which kids and parent desire. Moderate politics. Everyone lives on campus in beautiful dorms, and sports teams are strong. Merit Aid without need. If you have 2-4 kids, it adds up $.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are rising, for sure, will keep jumping. Pres Weinberg has used the strong per student endowment to great use (ahead of Colgate, Bucknell, Middlebury, Wesleyan, Holy Cross, Trinity) Columbus is fast growing tech city only 25 min from campus in Granville. Which is picture perfect town with real amenities, which kids and parent desire. Moderate politics. Everyone lives on campus in beautiful dorms, and sports teams are strong. Merit Aid without need. If you have 2-4 kids, it adds up $.

oh puhleeze.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

We visited Denison (and Kenyon and a ton of schools in the surrounding states last spring break)

Conservative/RW posters would be very surprised at the student population at Denison. Just because it’s in Ohio, doesn’t mean there aren’t pink haired kids there.

DC really liked it FWIW and we aren’t conservative or RW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Related question: Why are conservative/RW posters on the rise here boosting colleges in the south and places like Ohio, all the while decrying other schools as being too "woke", or having too many "pink haired boys."

We see you and know your agenda.

We visited Denison (and Kenyon and a ton of schools in the surrounding states last spring break)

Conservative/RW posters would be very surprised at the student population at Denison. Just because it’s in Ohio, doesn’t mean there aren’t pink haired kids there.

DC really liked it FWIW and we aren’t conservative or RW.

It’s frustrating to see recurring negative comments about Denison and Ohio that seem based on stereotypes rather than actual experience. As someone with a student attending Denison, I know these assumptions don’t reflect reality.

While not overwhelmingly political, Denison leans Democratic. For context, while Trump won Licking County overall, Biden won Granville in the 2020 election (I can't find the numbers for 2024), and the school is just 25 minutes from Columbus, which strongly supports Democratic candidates (Harris also won many other cities in Ohio). Additionally, Connie Schultz, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and wife of Senator Sherrod Brown, is a professor at Denison.

Denison’s student body is diverse, with about a quarter of the students coming from the Northeast and many others from across the U.S. and internationally. I'm a Democrat, but I want my kids to be able to have discussions with people across the political spectrum, and Denison encourages that (see: https://denison.edu/magazine/winter-2023/148750).

Instead of dismissing an entire state or college based on assumptions, I'd encourage people interested in Denison or other Ohio schools to do their research. I'm sure other posters would say the same about some southern schools.