What is the point of expunging the grade a student receives in a language class from MS just to boost the GPA with an Honors or AP class in HS when most colleges care about the unweighted GPA? I don't see the point. College admissions provide use their own method for calculating how they weigh honors and AP classes so they're not looking to see how FCPS is doing it. Is there a benefit or is it that most kids/families are doing it so you do it also (even though it's rather meaningless in the long run)? |
Could be the difference in class rank |
I just assume that if a college is adamant that they want to see a complete progression of a foreign language, that includes grades. Maybe expunging it boosts the GPA, or maybe it makes an admissions officer assume there was a bad grade. |
If your kid is in AAP, then they won't be getting a class rank in high school |
You're correct, class rank would be impacted. But how much of a difference would that really make when you're talking about at most 2 credits total vs the 22 or 26 you'll need for graduation. I'm sure the math can be done on this. |
High school doesn't have AAP and I think there is ranking. Kids figure it out by knowing other kids' GPA but the school puts the rank on the official transcript sent to the colleges. |
I thought I read last year that FCPS no longer freely offered Class Rank. It was an article about how FCPS students were being put at a disadvantage for college admissions because they were only sharing extremely large quantitative buckets like "top 50% of class".
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Sorry - PP here; found the article below.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/education/3153047/equity-grading-fairfax-county-family-search-class-rank/ |
If schools have class ranks, yes could bump a student up 1 place. fCPS doesn’t rank so not worth the are effort. |
I don't buy this. Colleges want to know student rank to gauge performance compared to direct peers. I don't think FCPS publishes rank to the students. But I would put on money on rank being on the 'official' transcript that goes to colleges. |
Lol Washington Examiner featuring an anonymous mother and a shill from Parents Defending Education, an extremist right-wing astroturf group funded by the Kochs. |
TJ hasn't had rank since it started in the 80s. We all saw what they showed colleges - top GPA and bottom GPA and a GPA distribution for the class and that was it. They meant it when they said they didn't rank (unlike some area privates which will apparently wink-wink, nudge-nudge provide rank information to colleges despite saying they don't). I have a co-worker who was admitted and refused to attend for one of the earliest TJ classes over the lack of ranking, because at the time there was no TJ reputation and they were afraid it would hurt college admissions. |
I believe you will find many anecdotal stories like your coworker, yourself, or the mom on the Examiner story. What I'm saying is when a college or university asks for rank, a rank is provided; otherwise, you're seriously impacting the school's student body in the application process. I don't think any high school in FCPS would do that and it would be really hard to keep under wraps for this long. I think FCPS will never provide it to the student/family, but that's very different than not providing colleges and universities with that data. If the school is producing a distribution (i.e., top 1%, top 5%, etc), they also have each student's rank on that curve. |
And, as noted by the mom in the Examiner story, there are many scholarships where rank plays a critical factor. What the story doesn't go into is whether FCPS provided that information to the scholarship program directly via the official transcript, which I am betting it did. They just didn't want to give it to the family/student and hence the ire of the mom and the rail against FCPS. |
The county can't be cute or lie because they never know when a student will request to see what has been sent to colleges either through a request to the county or to the college after they enroll. Saying no class rank and then supplying it seems like a pointless scandal |