Weight given to work samples

[Anonymous]

How much weight is really given to AAP work samples submitted by the parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much weight is really given to AAP work samples submitted by the parents?

Nobody knows - It’s a holistic approach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much weight is really given to AAP work samples submitted by the parents?

Nobody knows - It’s a holistic approach.

Yeah, "holistic" = black box.

[Anonymous]

Look, it's just like a job interview. Applicants got their GPAs, test scores and experiences, it's hard to say what exact "weight" to give to any one of them. Those evidences are mostly "confirming" each other, that good scores and good work sample comes together. If there is bad score and good work sample, it might make selection committee take a double look at the student, that's it, it's subjective.

[Anonymous]

My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

[Anonymous]

How high are the scores?

Anonymous wrote:My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, it's just like a job interview. Applicants got their GPAs, test scores and experiences, it's hard to say what exact "weight" to give to any one of them. Those evidences are mostly "confirming" each other, that good scores and good work sample comes together. If there is bad score and good work sample, it might make selection committee take a double look at the student, that's it, it's subjective.

Even better analogy, it's a college app for 2nd graders. Treat it as such as you raise the chances of getting in. Yes, only a small fraction of parents care that much, but if you are one then you'll understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How high are the scores?

Anonymous wrote:My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

He had a 141 cogat and 129 NNAT. Back then, you only needed one above 135(?) to be considered in pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How high are the scores?

Anonymous wrote:My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

He had a 141 cogat and 129 NNAT. Back then, you only needed one above 135(?) to be considered in pool.

My kid got in "back then" with worse scores than that, so I think you have a point about work samples. I assume your school had a bad AART who didn't get good ones. Our AART was amazing at putting packets together - she always said once a kid was referred by any pathway (in-pool, parent referred, school referred) it was her job to present the best possible picture of that kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How high are the scores?

Anonymous wrote:My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

He had a 141 cogat and 129 NNAT. Back then, you only needed one above 135(?) to be considered in pool.

My kid got in "back then" with worse scores than that, so I think you have a point about work samples. I assume your school had a bad AART who didn't get good ones. Our AART was amazing at putting packets together - she always said once a kid was referred by any pathway (in-pool, parent referred, school referred) it was her job to present the best possible picture of that kid.

Pp here. My kid has horrible handwriting. His work looks sloppy. He is also not artistic. Even now in middle school, his handwriting still is sloppy and he can’t draw and does not like art.

My current second grader has excellent penmanship and spelling.

[Anonymous]

Pp again. My kid has gotten all 4s and now As in AAP so he did belong. He did well during Covid because he is tech savvy and a good speaker. Handwritten work almost non existent in middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, it's just like a job interview. Applicants got their GPAs, test scores and experiences, it's hard to say what exact "weight" to give to any one of them. Those evidences are mostly "confirming" each other, that good scores and good work sample comes together. If there is bad score and good work sample, it might make selection committee take a double look at the student, that's it, it's subjective.

Remember also the holistic approach may be guided by the new HOPE scale, which values citizenship and being a global citizen.

Plus they now recognize the value of STEAM and that includes the Arts, so those work samples count too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid got rejected with very high scores, grades and amazing GBRS. I didn’t submit any work samples and the samples submitted from the school weren’t great. He got in on appeal. I’m pretty sure we submitted 4 work samples on appeal.

Same. My DD had a 160 COGAT, 153 NNAT, also 99% and 94% iReady's and didn't get in last year with her poor work samples provided by the school! We honestly didn't take them too seriously on the original app because her scores were so high. She got in on appeal with work samples from home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, it's just like a job interview. Applicants got their GPAs, test scores and experiences, it's hard to say what exact "weight" to give to any one of them. Those evidences are mostly "confirming" each other, that good scores and good work sample comes together. If there is bad score and good work sample, it might make selection committee take a double look at the student, that's it, it's subjective.

Remember also the holistic approach may be guided by the new HOPE scale, which values citizenship and being a global citizen.

Plus they now recognize the value of STEAM and that includes the Arts, so those work samples count too.

The presentation explicitly says they don't want art samples without an academic connection. Just because they recognize the arts doesn't make AAP an art program. It's still an academic program and they still want academic samples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, it's just like a job interview. Applicants got their GPAs, test scores and experiences, it's hard to say what exact "weight" to give to any one of them. Those evidences are mostly "confirming" each other, that good scores and good work sample comes together. If there is bad score and good work sample, it might make selection committee take a double look at the student, that's it, it's subjective.

Remember also the holistic approach may be guided by the new HOPE scale, which values citizenship and being a global citizen.

Plus they now recognize the value of STEAM and that includes the Arts, so those work samples count too.

The presentation explicitly says they don't want art samples without an academic connection. Just because they recognize the arts doesn't make AAP an art program. It's still an academic program and they still want academic samples.

Agree, but their HOPE form does include visual arts and performing arts among the exceptional strengths at the bottom, which is inconsistent with pure academics. And then there is "World Languages," which is apparently designed as another marker for non-native speakers.