CoGAT and CES

Anonymous
Does anyone know if the CogAT being administered this year for 3rd grade will be used for CES lottery placement? Kid was already identified as GT last year so curious why she’ll get the CogAT this year
Anonymous
GT identification and testing for the CES are not the same thing.
Anonymous
No. It is used for SIPPI identification only.
Anonymous
What is sippi identification?
Anonymous
Our letter home said it would be used to identify G&T. Not sure how that links with the lottery though
Anonymous
Our 3rd grader didn't get the CoGAT last year, but will have it this year. Already GT identified. I think they are 'checking the box'.
Anonymous
Am sure they want to see how those who got GT identified will do on cogat. Mcps should make this data public.
Anonymous
My 3rd grader was identified as GT last year without it. While she is bright, I don't see her as gifted. I'm curious to see her scores on the CoGat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 3rd grader was identified as GT last year without it. While she is bright, I don't see her as gifted. I'm curious to see her scores on the CoGat.


GT has the T because it's a very broad label.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is sippi identification?


The GT identification process in 2nd grade, which is meaningless and does not impact placement in the CES lottery pool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is sippi identification?


The GT identification process in 2nd grade, which is meaningless and does not impact placement in the CES lottery pool.

You can keep repeating this idea as much as you want—and I know you will—but most dcum won’t believe you. It’s another way to differentiate from the rest, regardless of whether or not its designation triggers entry into lottery or whatnot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is sippi identification?


The GT identification process in 2nd grade, which is meaningless and does not impact placement in the CES lottery pool.

You can keep repeating this idea as much as you want—and I know you will—but most dcum won’t believe you. It’s another way to differentiate from the rest, regardless of whether or not its designation triggers entry into lottery or whatnot.


I mean I guess it is meaningful to you to have your kid designated GT. But it is meaningless in terms of what it bring in MCPS. It doesn't mean your kid will get enrichment, and it certainly doesn't mean that your kid will get into the CES lottery.
Anonymous
I wonder how many students gets identified as GT at 2nd.

DC did not get into CES, but was in Compacted Math and HIGH for MS social study but that’s based on the MAP score. No extra anything at ES, I don’t think it will have any influence on MS/HS magnet applications, what was the point of being identified?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many students gets identified as GT at 2nd.

DC did not get into CES, but was in Compacted Math and HIGH for MS social study but that’s based on the MAP score. No extra anything at ES, I don’t think it will have any influence on MS/HS magnet applications, what was the point of being identified?


The identification really doesn't make any difference. What matters are grades and MAP scores, which determine whether you get into the lottery for CES and MS magnets. And after that it's just luck of the draw -- doesn't matter how well you do on MAP; all it can do is place you in the lottery, not improve your probabilty of getting selected from the lottery.

The GT identification process is done because the state requires it, not becuase it changes programming for the kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many students gets identified as GT at 2nd.

DC did not get into CES, but was in Compacted Math and HIGH for MS social study but that’s based on the MAP score. No extra anything at ES, I don’t think it will have any influence on MS/HS magnet applications, what was the point of being identified?

It’s a state requirement. Think of it more like being on the honor roll: neither result in a gate opening. GT means your child performed better than 85% of their locally normed (basically SES and neurotypical) cohort in both ELA and math.
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