Any benefit to referring child for LIV early?

[Anonymous]

Just wondering if there's any reason to do so vs wait until closer to the deadline.

[Anonymous]

I thought early allowed the AART to start putting together work samples. We were also able to discuss our at home samples and replace where needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought early allowed the AART to start putting together work samples. We were also able to discuss our at home samples and replace where needed.

But assuming you submitted right on the deadline, wouldn't the AART still be able to do that?

Also, I didn't realize that it was ok to ask the AART for feedback on the work samples... Good to know I guess!

[Anonymous]

Our school did pullouts with a group of referred kids the following January to get some work samples. The teachers also kept a file for each kid that was sent home in Feb, after the packet had been sent to the central committee.

I submitted my stuff the day before the deadline in case there was some snafu. I did not have the COGAT results when I submitted, the results came out the same day as the deadline. It would have been nice to have had those to address in my statement to the committee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school did pullouts with a group of referred kids the following January to get some work samples. The teachers also kept a file for each kid that was sent home in Feb, after the packet had been sent to the central committee.

I submitted my stuff the day before the deadline in case there was some snafu. I did not have the COGAT results when I submitted, the results came out the same day as the deadline. It would have been nice to have had those to address in my statement to the committee.

So this suggests it's not necessary to submit early to ensure the porfolio is prepared well, right?

How would you have addressed cogAT results? Do you mean to explain a result that was not consistent with the overall picture?

[Anonymous]

Early allowed me to go back and remove things the AART thought would not be easily viewed by the committee. It was very helpful. I had placed multiple samples on on page and she did not recommend that. I don’t know what the benefit of submitting late would be as I did it early twice and was successful. I would do it early again.

I do think they have to get the samples together even for the late submitted applicants. In the end it should not matter for a good candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought early allowed the AART to start putting together work samples. We were also able to discuss our at home samples and replace where needed.

But assuming you submitted right on the deadline, wouldn't the AART still be able to do that?

Also, I didn't realize that it was ok to ask the AART for feedback on the work samples... Good to know I guess!

The AART is different at each school , in terms of what they are willing to do or tell you. I have experienced 2 at the same school and the second was so helpful compared to the first. The first had such vague instructions the work samples I pulled together tried to hard, too much on the 2 sheets. The second told me what to remove , why and when I made edits confirmed that the samples were then great. We selected just language arts and math for the two pages and it was clear and easily read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought early allowed the AART to start putting together work samples. We were also able to discuss our at home samples and replace where needed.

But assuming you submitted right on the deadline, wouldn't the AART still be able to do that?

Also, I didn't realize that it was ok to ask the AART for feedback on the work samples... Good to know I guess!

The AART is different at each school , in terms of what they are willing to do or tell you. I have experienced 2 at the same school and the second was so helpful compared to the first. The first had such vague instructions the work samples I pulled together tried to hard, too much on the 2 sheets. The second told me what to remove , why and when I made edits confirmed that the samples were then great. We selected just language arts and math for the two pages and it was clear and easily read.

Great to know, thank you so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school did pullouts with a group of referred kids the following January to get some work samples. The teachers also kept a file for each kid that was sent home in Feb, after the packet had been sent to the central committee.

I submitted my stuff the day before the deadline in case there was some snafu. I did not have the COGAT results when I submitted, the results came out the same day as the deadline. It would have been nice to have had those to address in my statement to the committee.

So this suggests it's not necessary to submit early to ensure the porfolio is prepared well, right?

How would you have addressed cogAT results? Do you mean to explain a result that was not consistent with the overall picture?

Yes, my child is a verbal kid and bombed the COGAT verbal section. YMMV

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought early allowed the AART to start putting together work samples. We were also able to discuss our at home samples and replace where needed.

But assuming you submitted right on the deadline, wouldn't the AART still be able to do that?

Also, I didn't realize that it was ok to ask the AART for feedback on the work samples... Good to know I guess!

The AART is different at each school , in terms of what they are willing to do or tell you. I have experienced 2 at the same school and the second was so helpful compared to the first. The first had such vague instructions the work samples I pulled together tried to hard, too much on the 2 sheets. The second told me what to remove , why and when I made edits confirmed that the samples were then great. We selected just language arts and math for the two pages and it was clear and easily read.

My experience is that AART are helpful if they want you kid to get in. More people parent refer than they have time to personally help

[Anonymous]

At our school the AART would review your packet before you submitted it (and she indicated she would do it for everyone). I personally found that helpful with my first 2 kids. By the 3rd I pretty much knew what she was going to say. But the first two times I didn't submit until I had that review done.

With the 3rd where I was pretty confident in the packet we submitted a few weeks early just because we were done and I had other things on my plate in late November/early December. It was nice to know it was done.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think referring early is necessary, but our school told us to notify the teacher/aart that we would be referring so that they could gather samples, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At our school the AART would review your packet before you submitted it (and she indicated she would do it for everyone). I personally found that helpful with my first 2 kids. By the 3rd I pretty much knew what she was going to say. But the first two times I didn't submit until I had that review done.

With the 3rd where I was pretty confident in the packet we submitted a few weeks early just because we were done and I had other things on my plate in late November/early December. It was nice to know it was done.

I’m confused because how did she get it if you didn’t submit it. The submission is to the AART

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our school the AART would review your packet before you submitted it (and she indicated she would do it for everyone). I personally found that helpful with my first 2 kids. By the 3rd I pretty much knew what she was going to say. But the first two times I didn't submit until I had that review done.

With the 3rd where I was pretty confident in the packet we submitted a few weeks early just because we were done and I had other things on my plate in late November/early December. It was nice to know it was done.

I’m confused because how did she get it if you didn’t submit it. The submission is to the AART

Good question - I sent it over pre-submission to her email, but she knew it wasn't the official thing. Then she reviewed, I made suggested changes (they were always very general, she wasn't giving a specific advantage but instead focused on how to present a whole and complete picture of each kid), and officially submitted.

[Anonymous]

Use the thanksgiving break to finalize the referral package. Submit after Thanksgiving, give AART some time to provide feedback, which is only on formats and legibility.

Do not just dump the package on the last day, you never know what kind of easily correctable mistakes you might be making.