How many believe war in Iraq

Anonymous
is over and American troops will not have to return?
Anonymous
I guess it will be like Korea only a greater scale. But, honestly I think it is a matter of time before someone gets nuclear bombs and blows up most of the world or us up. Only a matter of time before the shit hits the fan.
Anonymous
Uh, American troops haven't left. Only those who are officially describe as combat troops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Uh, American troops haven't left. Only those who are officially describe as combat troops.



Is this another Korea? Combat units leave but peace keeping units stay for another 60 years?
Anonymous
The current conspiracy theory is we are only waging "war" in Iraq and Afghanistan to build military instillations for a bigger war that is coming in the future...

Who knows. It all sounds like a bad game of Risk to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, American troops haven't left. Only those who are officially describe as combat troops.



Is this another Korea? Combat units leave but peace keeping units stay for another 60 years?
Possibly, but our soldiers don't die in Korea so it is an improvement.

This is what Colin Powell meant when he said invading Iraq was Pottery Barn rules. You break it you buy it. He wasn't talking about our ability to fight the war but of the vacuum created afterward. The irony is that our postwar presence in Saudi after gulf war I was the reason he attacked us to begin with. But the die is cast. We destroyed their capacity for self defense and it takes a long time to rebuild that.
Anonymous
He being bin laden
Anonymous
war is war. do not go to war without knowing how to get out.
Too late, bush will not listen. he started it based on assumptions that were false. the troops have to suffer for the folly of stupid politicians. nothing new
Anonymous
Don't we still have troops in Germany and Japan?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don't we still have troops in Germany and Japan?



Yes but these are US military bases and are not for combat or for peace keeping now that the Soviet Union no longer exists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, American troops haven't left. Only those who are officially describe as combat troops.



Is this another Korea? Combat units leave but peace keeping units stay for another 60 years?
Possibly, but our soldiers don't die in Korea so it is an improvement.

This is what Colin Powell meant when he said invading Iraq was Pottery Barn rules. You break it you buy it. He wasn't talking about our ability to fight the war but of the vacuum created afterward. The irony is that our postwar presence in Saudi after gulf war I was the reason he attacked us to begin with. But the die is cast. We destroyed their capacity for self defense and it takes a long time to rebuild that.


Also, Bush, Sr. had James Baker and listened to him. Unfortunately, Bush, Jr., had all the hawks who wanted to invade during the first Gulf War: Rumsfeld ("You go to war with the army you have"), Perlman, Wolfowitz, and the evil emperor, Dick Cheney. Powell was Sec. opf State and he should have spoken out but didn't not that he would have been listened to by the Evil Foursome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't we still have troops in Germany and Japan?



Yes but these are US military bases and are not for combat or for peace keeping now that the Soviet Union no longer exists.


Sort of.

Post WWII, we desired to demilitarize Japan. Since they did not face an internal security threat, we could do that. We took over their bases and permanently stationed troops there. We then signed a treaty which more or less obligates us to protect them. To this day, we have 35,000 troops in Japan and they have limited capability, although they have some forces to defend themselves and they have sent token troops into some international conflicts. But if Korea attacks them, we are on the hook for defending them. They also have benefitted from very low spending on military in the last 60 years. And there are protestors to the U.S. presence, particularly on Okinawa, but no one is attacking the U.S. for it.

I can't remember exactly how things unfolded with Germany, but I know of course we occupied them we demilitarized them. But then the cold war made us firm allies against the Soviet Union and I think they rearmed around the time NATO came into being. I know that we have about 50,000 troops there.

We also have the 30,000 or so troops in South Korea.

Maybe the practical effect of our wars is that after every major war we end up with a perpetual presence of 30,000 to 50,000 troops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, American troops haven't left. Only those who are officially describe as combat troops.



Is this another Korea? Combat units leave but peace keeping units stay for another 60 years?


The remaining 50,000 non-combat troops are scheduled to be taken out over the next 12 months, so it will not be like Korea.

In 2004, Kerry took the position that since we broke Iraq, we had an obligation to fix it. I was against going into Iraq but I agreed with Kerry. 6 years later Iraq is still broken, but we're not making it any better. We screwed up the country, and all we can do is leave. High time. That's probably all we can do in Afganistan too.
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