Pls suggest ED strategy

[Anonymous]

Which schools would you suggest for them for ED1/EA and ED2?

Candidate 1
Male, humanities kid, top 3 in 3rd tier private. 4.0, 1520. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, OK EC plus great summer jobs. Wants a private top 30 or top 10 LACs in the northeast

Candidate 2
Female, STEM kid, top 10 in TT feeder private. 3.8, 1590. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, not pay-to-play science research internship but no job. Wants a small-to-midsized STEM/research college in northeast or CA

[Anonymous]

Middlebury and Pomona

[Anonymous]

TT private?

[Anonymous]

Haverford and Swarthmore

[Anonymous]

OP, you are going about this backwards. Make a college list first. Then ED/EA/REA to the top choice, if affordable. In addition, if not applying REA anywhere, then apply nonrestrictive EA to every school on the list that offers it.

Maybe that's what you should be asking, are list suggestions rather than ED1 and ED2 suggestions. One person's top choice will not be another's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are going about this backwards. Make a college list first. Then ED/EA/REA to the top choice, if affordable. In addition, if not applying REA anywhere, then apply nonrestrictive EA to every school on the list that offers it.

Maybe that's what you should be asking, are list suggestions rather than ED1 and ED2 suggestions. One person's top choice will not be another's.

+1

Also, if you don’t have a top choice, don’t ED. It’s a commitment. Your kid will be very different in 6 months and trying to decide between schools as it stands. If they aren’t passionate about a school now, don’t ED just to increase chances. The reason ED has a higher admit rate is because kids have already screened themselves and identified they are a good fit. If your kid doesn’t already know that about a school, they aren’t going to be accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which schools would you suggest for them for ED1/EA and ED2?

Candidate 1
Male, humanities kid, top 3 in 3rd tier private. 4.0, 1520. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, OK EC plus great summer jobs. Wants a private top 30 or top 10 LACs in the northeast

Candidate 2
Female, STEM kid, top 10 in TT feeder private. 3.8, 1590. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, not pay-to-play science research internship but no job. Wants a small-to-midsized STEM/research college in northeast or CA

Bowdoin, Middlebury, Dartmouth for 1; Davidson if willing to compromise on NE.

For 2: Stanford, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton, Columbia if they don't mind NYC, Cornell if they like rural over cities. MIT or Caltech if they do not care about a campus with students with myriad interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which schools would you suggest for them for ED1/EA and ED2?

Candidate 1
Male, humanities kid, top 3 in 3rd tier private. 4.0, 1520. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, OK EC plus great summer jobs. Wants a private top 30 or top 10 LACs in the northeast

Candidate 2
Female, STEM kid, top 10 in TT feeder private. 3.8, 1590. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, not pay-to-play science research internship but no job. Wants a small-to-midsized STEM/research college in northeast or CA

Bowdoin, Middlebury, Dartmouth for 1; Davidson if willing to compromise on NE.

For 2: Stanford, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton, Columbia if they don't mind NYC, Cornell if they like rural over cities. MIT or Caltech if they do not care about a campus with students with myriad interests.

I thought you’d need much better ECs, GPA, and connections or athlete to the ones listed for 2?

[Anonymous]

Harvey Mudd for #2

[Anonymous]

For kid number one why are you saying they want a whatever ranked school when you say nothing about fit? What a myopic and sad way to go about finding a college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which schools would you suggest for them for ED1/EA and ED2?

Candidate 1
Male, humanities kid, top 3 in 3rd tier private. 4.0, 1520. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, OK EC plus great summer jobs. Wants a private top 30 or top 10 LACs in the northeast

Candidate 2
Female, STEM kid, top 10 in TT feeder private. 3.8, 1590. full pay, not URM/legacy/athlete, not pay-to-play science research internship but no job. Wants a small-to-midsized STEM/research college in northeast or CA

Bowdoin, Middlebury, Dartmouth for 1; Davidson if willing to compromise on NE.

For 2: Stanford, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton, Columbia if they don't mind NYC, Cornell if they like rural over cities. MIT or Caltech if they do not care about a campus with students with myriad interests.

I thought you’d need much better ECs, GPA, and connections or athlete to the ones listed for 2?

Yes. And 2 of the 3 proposed for candidate 1 also a stretch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are going about this backwards. Make a college list first. Then ED/EA/REA to the top choice, if affordable. In addition, if not applying REA anywhere, then apply nonrestrictive EA to every school on the list that offers it.

Maybe that's what you should be asking, are list suggestions rather than ED1 and ED2 suggestions. One person's top choice will not be another's.

+1

Also, if you don’t have a top choice, don’t ED. It’s a commitment. Your kid will be very different in 6 months and trying to decide between schools as it stands. If they aren’t passionate about a school now, don’t ED just to increase chances. The reason ED has a higher admit rate is because kids have already screened themselves and identified they are a good fit. If your kid doesn’t already know that about a school, they aren’t going to be accepted.

Not sure if I agree if top 30 is the ultimate goal. Kids described here have a chance at Chicago, Georgetown and Middlebury if ED, much lower chance if they don’t

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you are going about this backwards. Make a college list first. Then ED/EA/REA to the top choice, if affordable. In addition, if not applying REA anywhere, then apply nonrestrictive EA to every school on the list that offers it.

Maybe that's what you should be asking, are list suggestions rather than ED1 and ED2 suggestions. One person's top choice will not be another's.

+1

Also, if you don’t have a top choice, don’t ED. It’s a commitment. Your kid will be very different in 6 months and trying to decide between schools as it stands. If they aren’t passionate about a school now, don’t ED just to increase chances. The reason ED has a higher admit rate is because kids have already screened themselves and identified they are a good fit. If your kid doesn’t already know that about a school, they aren’t going to be accepted.

Not sure if I agree if top 30 is the ultimate goal. Kids described here have a chance at Chicago, Georgetown and Middlebury if ED, much lower chance if they don’t

DP. Why would top 30 be the ultimate goal? Prestige-or-bust, and nothing else, no personal preferences?

Also, Georgetown does not offer ED.

[Anonymous]

OP, pay attention to the numbers if EDing a small school--get a feeling from your college counselor on how competitive your kid is vs others applying. For example, Pomona as mentioned by someone above, may accept 1000 first years. Roughly half will be your kid's gender. Then subtract out the athletes/first gen, etc. Your kid may be applying for one of 350-400 spots. At a minimum, your kid needs to be the most appealing kid at their own HS applying.

Unless a small school is your number one by a long shot, I would personally ED somewhere larger if you really want an ED acceptance.

With your kid's stats, they will no doubt be accepted EA to some solid schools. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, pay attention to the numbers if EDing a small school--get a feeling from your college counselor on how competitive your kid is vs others applying. For example, Pomona as mentioned by someone above, may accept 1000 first years. Roughly half will be your kid's gender. Then subtract out the athletes/first gen, etc. Your kid may be applying for one of 350-400 spots. At a minimum, your kid needs to be the most appealing kid at their own HS applying.

Unless a small school is your number one by a long shot, I would personally ED somewhere larger if you really want an ED acceptance.

With your kid's stats, they will no doubt be accepted EA to some solid schools. Good luck!

Except Pomona has 1700 students total in the entire school, so about 425 per class. Now try your ED calculations with that number. Odds aren’t look so good for the unhooked applicant, right?