assignments up to two weeks overdue ok without penalty?

[Anonymous]

I'm a new MCPS parent and my middle schooler is insisting that assignments can be up to 2 weeks overdue without penalty. Kid said that because of the rule, he could spend longer on the writing assignment than his classmates who just turned in 2 paragraphs. I want my kid to learn to adhere to deadlines, so is that really the case? If so, how can a teacher compare an assignment he spent 2 weeks on, with one that his classmates did where they spent much less time.

[Anonymous]

If true, another sign of the race to the bottom.

DS attends a non-top 50 university. Majoring in a STEM discipline. Assignments are due when they are due. Kids in for a rude awakening when they go to college.

[Anonymous]

Ask your kid to provide you with that written guidance. It will be a good learning experience for him at how to research or confirm information.

[Anonymous]

What a terrible work ethic! When he gets to high school, he won't be able to earn more than 50% if he turns in assignments late.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Many middle schools insist that teachers give as much grace as possible and dissuade teachers from enacting the late penalty. My school still uses the 50%. I hate it. It does instill horrific work efforts that will shock many students upon entering high school - as I know high schools are using the traditional (0-100) grading scale.

This is the time to learn these skills where there is room to recover from working towards learning how to persevere through difficult work and/or time management. Not high school when the credits count. We coddle them waaaaay too much here. The effort kids put into work is abhorrent. And they expect 100%. When they get to me, I grade for accuracy. They don’t like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a terrible work ethic! When he gets to high school, he won't be able to earn more than 50% if he turns in assignments late.

Not necessarily if the kid is using the extra times to turn in a higher quality assignment

[Anonymous]

I agree with PPs who say now is the time to practice good work habits. He should to learn how to turn in higher quality work on time, which is more like college or the working world, even if there is 50% rule.

[Anonymous]

Assignments have a due date and a deadline.

After due date may be a penalty like -10%.

After deadline is 0.

Child should ask the teacher in writing.

[Anonymous]

"overdue 2 weeks without penalty" is a fancy way of saying "due date is 2 weeks later, but teacher recommends turning in earlier for scheduling balance."

Ignore the histrionic posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Assignments have a due date and a deadline.

After due date may be a penalty like -10%.

After deadline is 0.

Child should ask the teacher in writing.

This is correct. Easy way to find out how long a teacher put between due date and deadline would be to review the assignment or ask the teacher.

[Anonymous]

This is pretty school-specific. You'll want to find out the local rules.

At our HS, last year, there were intermittent deadlines--I think three per quarter. And kids could be late and get full credit up to that deadline.

This year, they got rid of that system and are back to more old fashioned due dates. (Due on assigned date unless sick.)

So this is a moving target. I'd suggest you reach out to the teacher to get more information.

We gave big punishment to our kid a couple of years ago because she was constantly late submitting for a particular class (the grades would turn up in Canvas as zeroes and be changed later once she submitted the asssignment). We later found out she was telling us the true policy. (When I contacted the teacher mid-year, she told me how the kid was doing just GREAT in her class.) I stand by punishing because dd knew our house rules were to turn things in regardless of the school's rules. But I might not have been so harsh if I realized that she was getting really mixed signals from me versus her teacher--I think the teacher was possibly even encouraging kids to take longer if they felt stress, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If true, another sign of the race to the bottom.

DS attends a non-top 50 university. Majoring in a STEM discipline. Assignments are due when they are due. Kids in for a rude awakening when they go to college.

Same experience, but I wouldn't overstate the rude awakening. My kid was constantly late submitting assignments when the school allowed it. Is now in college and seems to be 100% on top of things. Kids respond to incentives. As long as they know the new rules, they change their behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is pretty school-specific. You'll want to find out the local rules.

At our HS, last year, there were intermittent deadlines--I think three per quarter. And kids could be late and get full credit up to that deadline.

This year, they got rid of that system and are back to more old fashioned due dates. (Due on assigned date unless sick.)

So this is a moving target. I'd suggest you reach out to the teacher to get more information.

We gave big punishment to our kid a couple of years ago because she was constantly late submitting for a particular class (the grades would turn up in Canvas as zeroes and be changed later once she submitted the asssignment). We later found out she was telling us the true policy. (When I contacted the teacher mid-year, she told me how the kid was doing just GREAT in her class.) I stand by punishing because dd knew our house rules were to turn things in regardless of the school's rules. But I might not have been so harsh if I realized that she was getting really mixed signals from me versus her teacher--I think the teacher was possibly even encouraging kids to take longer if they felt stress, etc.

So close to getting it, but can't admit that a mere child might know what she's talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If true, another sign of the race to the bottom.

DS attends a non-top 50 university. Majoring in a STEM discipline. Assignments are due when they are due. Kids in for a rude awakening when they go to college.

Same experience, but I wouldn't overstate the rude awakening. My kid was constantly late submitting assignments when the school allowed it. Is now in college and seems to be 100% on top of things. Kids respond to incentives. As long as they know the new rules, they change their behavior.

Lol. If only it was that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"overdue 2 weeks without penalty" is a fancy way of saying "due date is 2 weeks later, but teacher recommends turning in earlier for scheduling balance."

Ignore the histrionic posters.

Well. There is a difference between the due date and deadline in the MCPS world. It seems according to OP it’s already due. Not all teachers accept after the due date. Some give a 10% penalty. Some allow you to turn it in without penalty at interims. Some even allow after that. It’s actually very annoying as a teacher there is not a clear and relatively strict policy amongst schools concerning this. It’s all over the place, even within a school.