Do roster limits mean walk ons will be a thing of the past?

[Anonymous]

As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

[Anonymous]

Here’s hoping. The number of weak ivy walkons from top boarding schools, especially those who play “rich kid” sports is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s hoping. The number of weak ivy walkons from top boarding schools, especially those who play “rich kid” sports is ridiculous.

Wait, I thought what people objected to were Ivy recruits. Walk ons are kids who don't get any help in the admissions process and then try out for the team and make it after admission. Are you saying that you think that's not how it should go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s hoping. The number of weak ivy walkons from top boarding schools, especially those who play “rich kid” sports is ridiculous.

If you walked on that means you got into the Ivy without any help from the coach, genius. Not a weak student at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

Yes, and he needs to decide if he wants to take that risk. And some of it might depend on whether he would be able to play wherever he ends up if he's rejected by MIT.

He recognizes that he probably won't get into an Ivy if he doesn't take the support, but there are other D1 schools that are interested, where he probably could get in on his own, where he'd be happy to attend and play.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

Yes, and he needs to decide if he wants to take that risk. And some of it might depend on whether he would be able to play wherever he ends up if he's rejected by MIT.

He recognizes that he probably won't get into an Ivy if he doesn't take the support, but there are other D1 schools that are interested, where he probably could get in on his own, where he'd be happy to attend and play.

Ivy schools have a lot of academic flexibility if you are truly recruited and given an offer. Way more than MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

Yes, and he needs to decide if he wants to take that risk. And some of it might depend on whether he would be able to play wherever he ends up if he's rejected by MIT.

He recognizes that he probably won't get into an Ivy if he doesn't take the support, but there are other D1 schools that are interested, where he probably could get in on his own, where he'd be happy to attend and play.

Ivy schools have a lot of academic flexibility if you are truly recruited and given an offer. Way more than MIT.

Yes, but this is a kid who has known what he wants to study, and hasn't wavered since he was a toddler. My guess is he won't really need academic flexibility. He needs a strong curriculum in a specific subject.

It will be his choice, unless he gets injured in the next 12 months and the choice disappears, which is always possible. I'm not saying I'd choose MIT. But he might.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s hoping. The number of weak ivy walkons from top boarding schools, especially those who play “rich kid” sports is ridiculous.

If you walked on that means you got into the Ivy without any help from the coach, genius. Not a weak student at all.

My kid walked on at an Ivy and was admitted with a 3% RD acceptance rate on merit alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s hoping. The number of weak ivy walkons from top boarding schools, especially those who play “rich kid” sports is ridiculous.

If you walked on that means you got into the Ivy without any help from the coach, genius. Not a weak student at all.

My kid walked on at an Ivy and was admitted with a 3% RD acceptance rate on merit alone.

^as a sophomore because Fall rostse was already set/full by the time he was admitted in May.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

Yes, and he needs to decide if he wants to take that risk. And some of it might depend on whether he would be able to play wherever he ends up if he's rejected by MIT.

He recognizes that he probably won't get into an Ivy if he doesn't take the support, but there are other D1 schools that are interested, where he probably could get in on his own, where he'd be happy to attend and play.

Ivy schools have a lot of academic flexibility if you are truly recruited and given an offer. Way more than MIT.

Yeah but MIT has some. Is DC being recruited by MIT? If he is they will tell DC what the chances are. If they put him forward he will get in. Very tough to walk onto any major sport even at MIT. Not likely.

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Anonymous wrote:As of now, my kid's first choice school is one where coaches can provide some support for an athlete, but there is no likely letter, or guaranteed spot. My understanding is about 50% of supported athletes get admitted. He has had conversations with the coach, but he's not a senior so support hasn't been promised yet.

His thought is that if he doesn't get in, he'll apply to a number of other schools EA or RA, and try to walk onto a team there. But now, with the roster limits, he worries that it won't be realistic, that coaches will fill their teams in ED, and won't be able to take someone else on the team.

What sport and what school? D1 school? It doesn’t sound like a D1 school from your description. Not all sports list roster spots…football gained 20 spots.

Recruited athletes at D1 schools have a 100% chance of getting accepted…the real recruited ones.

None of the athletic changes impact D3. It only impacts in certain sports due to formerly D1 athletes now having to settle for D2 or D3.

He wants to go to MIT. He's gotten interest from Ivy coaches, where roster limits would apply, but prefers MIT because it's a better academic fit. But if he doesn't get in there, the other schools on his list are mostly D1.

Yeah…walk on spots in most sports just won’t happen much anymore. As an example, Ivy baseball teams used to carry 40-45 kids up to their first game in March (when they had to cut to 40). Now they have to name a 34 man roster in early September which eliminates walk ons.

If he is good enough to actually get an Ivy offer, he is definitely wanted by MIT. Even Ivy schools require you apply either REA or ED if you are a recruit.

Ivy offers though are a sure thing vs MIT where there is still some risk.

Yes, and he needs to decide if he wants to take that risk. And some of it might depend on whether he would be able to play wherever he ends up if he's rejected by MIT.

He recognizes that he probably won't get into an Ivy if he doesn't take the support, but there are other D1 schools that are interested, where he probably could get in on his own, where he'd be happy to attend and play.

Ivy schools have a lot of academic flexibility if you are truly recruited and given an offer. Way more than MIT.

Yes, but this is a kid who has known what he wants to study, and hasn't wavered since he was a toddler. My guess is he won't really need academic flexibility. He needs a strong curriculum in a specific subject.

It will be his choice, unless he gets injured in the next 12 months and the choice disappears, which is always possible. I'm not saying I'd choose MIT. But he might.

By academic flexibility I think PP meant that lower grades/stats will work to get in.

[Anonymous]

Ivy isn't a power conference, so will depend on whether or not they opt in. My money is on "no".