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Anonymous
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I am wondering what the kids have been like in the GT spectrum from a behavior stand point. I was concerned about putting our son in the AAP program b/c he is very friendly and sociable and really wants to have a lot of friends. I was assured by several friends of mine with children in AAP that the kids are great. real leaders etc.
This past weekend, my husband was riding home from a trip with our 6th grader and his friend who is in GT/AAP. His friend commented that kids in his class were wild and had lots of behavior issues. He said he had been bitten and that some of the kids were always out of control but the teacher didn’t seem to care. I have seen a lot of discussion on these boards about parents who think there kids are suitable for GT regardless of behavior issues. That seems like something that would disrupt the learning environment to me. I have some concerns. Does anyone have a perspective on this? |
Anonymous
| Nothing like this kind of thing happens in my DS's AAP classes, but it does happen in some the mainstream classes. The AAP program is not guaranteed even for smart kids, and parents have little say in the process. So the notion that there would be more profoundly disturbed or disturbing kids in AAP is ridiculous. |
Anonymous
| AFAIK, my DD's AAP class has not been "wild" and no one has been bitten. I have volunteered in the classroom many times and haven't witnessed out of control kids, either. |
Anonymous
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Have heard this before as well but haven't experienced it so far. It seemed to me that there were many more disruptive kids at our local elementary, which because of its great reputation seemed to draw many special needs kids with disruptive behaviors to it. That said, there are kids with IEPs in the AAP program, and I imagine some of their IEPs could be for issues that might cause them to be disruptive but no more so than you'd find in the GE classes.
Back years ago when I was in school, I don't remember so much of the teachers' time being taken up with the number of disruptive students I've noticed when volunteering in my kids' classrooms. Some years I wonder how the other 24 kids in the class (including my own) learn anything academic during the year. |
Anonymous
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I was a PP who mentioned behavior issues in our center. In our case it was a class ahead of ours. Turns out one of the teachers has a reputation for being very good with SN kids, so she was assigned alot of kids with IEPs and 504s for various issues. The school recognized that in this case, that was too many kids in one class, so they are not planning to do that again.
It really just depends on the class mix. This was one year that had a lot of kid that made the classroom disruptive. My point on the other thread was that the AAP program does not screen out for behavior issues. They want children who are best served in the AAP environment, and that may mean that there will be academically bright kids who are not necessarily model citizens (yet) in the classroom. In any classroom there is a range of behaviors. The effect of the behaviors depends on the other kids in the class and how well the teacher manages the classroom. Being in the AAP program is no guarantee that classrooms either will or won't be disruptive. |
Anonymous
| A lot of the kids in the AAP programs are brilliant, but have social problems and have no self control and are disruptive. That's what is referred to as behavior issues, vice bullying. |
Anonymous
| I have 2 kids in the Center and trust me, nobody's biting anybody. |
Anonymous
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This is the most ridiculous question on this forum!!!!!!
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Anonymous
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It's true. Some of the smartest kids have the worst social skills and don't work well with others.
Just because some kids perform better on standardized tests don't imply that they behave better too or are model children. |
Anonymous
| I disagree that FFX County does not screen for personality issues in AAP. They most definitely do. The kids in my DS's AAP are the smartest and easiest to get along with. Sounds like your school combined AAP with special services just because of that one teacher. |
Anonymous
Two possibilities. Either (1) you attend the class with your son and know the personalities of all the kids, or (2) you are very naive. |
Anonymous
This. |
Anonymous
yes, but does ayone have any specifics? I mean we parents really are not in the classroom much so we probably don't know what goes on. |
Anonymous
Are you looking for specific information about a specific classroom with a specific teacher in a specific school in a specific academic year? I would think that is next to impossible to obtain. Just do the math -- there are 24 AAP Centers at the elementary school level, with all but one of them with classes in grades 3 - 6. Making the incorrect assumption that there is only one AAP class per grade, that's (at a minimum) 95 AAP classroom settings. Even if you obtained anecdotal information here, it is highly likely that the number of reports you received would be statistically insignificant. |
Anonymous
I'm 10:10. Obviously I was not in the classroom. My info came from anecdotes from 1) parents with kids in the grade above ours and 2) a friend is a substitute teacher at our school and she said this class was one of the worst she ever subbed in! There were 4-5 kids with IEPs/504s for ADHD and high functioning Asperger's. My own child has a 504 for anxiety, so we have our own issues and I am not complaining. Just saying that there can be a bad fit/unfortunate class mix in any school at any grade level, base school or AAP center. I have also heard various anecdotes from parents of older children as well that there is there occasional child with pretty severe behavioral issues in the centers. Being in the AAP center does not make a class immune from behavioral issues. |