Anyone with a HS dc into track?

[Anonymous]

Experiences? College chances? Fwiw not cross country

[Anonymous]

As far as college chances. I have not seen a state of chaos in D1 track and field asi have seen now.

Roster and scholarship limits have been raised. A good thing on its face.

But the Power 4 arrangement will not last and once the top 40 (or so) break away from the NCAA programs will begin to cut track, particularly on the men’s side.This isnt my prediction but that of a long time Big 10 and mid major coach who I refer people to.

Throw into the mix that it is much easier to recruit a foreign athlete or an athlete off the transfer portal to score immediate points in the conference - so even if you are an excellent student and a competitive sprinter - let’s say a high school 47 second 400 meter runner - very very good - scholarships and walk on spots tied to admission will begin to melt away. With 4 conferences things are insanely competitive.

D3 schools look increasingly like places where athletes can still be developed, but they often reflect a different type of school than D1’s in the past. My friends in high school often took offers at Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Eastern, Western and so on. They at times beat Univ of Illinois. Those days are long gone. So a challenging landscape - and glad I was in the ACC in the early 80’s.

[Anonymous]

Not a track person but from my D1 coach friends who are distance and jumping people I’m hearing the same worries about the impact the new rules and conferences will have on programs.

We’ve also seen recruiting for the big program we’re connected to shift quickly to the transfer portal/international model PP cited above. It’s still the minority of the team but the success of those athletes and the speed at which it’s shifted has been startling.

Track is a great sport, though, and it would be silly to put it aside just because recruiting prospects might be messy in the future.

[Anonymous]

Track is more straightforward because it is not subjective but based on times. Schools post their recruiting standards so if you have the times- you can reach out.

Some recruiting happens in 11th grade but there is still potential for seniors who might have had a great spring/summer track times.

Some track programs have distance track runner do XC too.

[Anonymous]

There is some good young talent in FCPS- especially on the girls side. It will be interesting to see how the girls that had great freshman/soph years do as they get older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As far as college chances. I have not seen a state of chaos in D1 track and field asi have seen now.

Roster and scholarship limits have been raised. A good thing on its face.

But the Power 4 arrangement will not last and once the top 40 (or so) break away from the NCAA programs will begin to cut track, particularly on the men’s side.This isnt my prediction but that of a long time Big 10 and mid major coach who I refer people to.

Throw into the mix that it is much easier to recruit a foreign athlete or an athlete off the transfer portal to score immediate points in the conference - so even if you are an excellent student and a competitive sprinter - let’s say a high school 47 second 400 meter runner - very very good - scholarships and walk on spots tied to admission will begin to melt away. With 4 conferences things are insanely competitive.

D3 schools look increasingly like places where athletes can still be developed, but they often reflect a different type of school than D1’s in the past. My friends in high school often took offers at Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Eastern, Western and so on. They at times beat Univ of Illinois. Those days are long gone. So a challenging landscape - and glad I was in the ACC in the early 80’s.

Thank you for responding. You seem to know a lot. I know very little as it’s a fairly new sport for dc and we have zero experience in it. What are the recent changes you mentioned? I know zero unfortunately.

I’ve been on line looking at times and dcs times are solid but I don’t really know what that means. Dc has heard from a few schools here and there. But realistically we are looking at d3 which is maybe ok for dc, I don’t know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Track is more straightforward because it is not subjective but based on times. Schools post their recruiting standards so if you have the times- you can reach out.

Some recruiting happens in 11th grade but there is still potential for seniors who might have had a great spring/summer track times.

Some track programs have distance track runner do XC too.

Thanks for posting. Is that what one should do? Reach out? I see lots of colleges with times that seem to line up with dcs times (there’s recruit and walk on differences from what I can see) but I don’t know where to help him begin with all of that. Total novice here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is some good young talent in FCPS- especially on the girls side. It will be interesting to see how the girls that had great freshman/soph years do as they get older.

What’s FCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is some good young talent in FCPS- especially on the girls side. It will be interesting to see how the girls that had great freshman/soph years do as they get older.

What’s FCPS?

Fairfax County Public Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a track person but from my D1 coach friends who are distance and jumping people I’m hearing the same worries about the impact the new rules and conferences will have on programs.

We’ve also seen recruiting for the big program we’re connected to shift quickly to the transfer portal/international model PP cited above. It’s still the minority of the team but the success of those athletes and the speed at which it’s shifted has been startling.

Track is a great sport, though, and it would be silly to put it aside just because recruiting prospects might be messy in the future.

Wow I know nothing!! What new rules??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is some good young talent in FCPS- especially on the girls side. It will be interesting to see how the girls that had great freshman/soph years do as they get older.

What’s FCPS?

Fairfax County Public Schools

Aha, I see. I’m not a local

[Anonymous]

I have a college son who walked onto a D1 school.

Use run riot and tfrrs as reputable sites for figuring out what times are what each school has today.

Realize there are fewer men’s track programs than women’s track programs because of title IX and having to balance for large football teams. JMU, for example, doesn’t have a men’s track team, but they have a women’s one.

Talk to your high school coach about the real odds about this person running in college.

Realize that the times of the school don’t always match up with its academic background or costs for your child. For example, my son could easily run a lot of D3 times, but most of those schools are small and more expensive and the academically rigorous ones give no merit. He was not likely to get a recruitment scholarship for track. so we decided to go with a larger D1 that fit his idea of college better, and was more affordable. (40k/year vs 75/80k)

[Anonymous]

That should be runcruit, not run riot.

https://runcruit.com/

[Anonymous]

https://www.tfrrs.org/

Also, follow college teams on Twitter and Instagram, and look at their roster online for who is on their team and what those kids ran in high school on milestat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a college son who walked onto a D1 school.

Use run riot and tfrrs as reputable sites for figuring out what times are what each school has today.

Realize there are fewer men’s track programs than women’s track programs because of title IX and having to balance for large football teams. JMU, for example, doesn’t have a men’s track team, but they have a women’s one.

Talk to your high school coach about the real odds about this person running in college.

Realize that the times of the school don’t always match up with its academic background or costs for your child. For example, my son could easily run a lot of D3 times, but most of those schools are small and more expensive and the academically rigorous ones give no merit. He was not likely to get a recruitment scholarship for track. so we decided to go with a larger D1 that fit his idea of college better, and was more affordable. (40k/year vs 75/80k)

This is great info, thank you!! And congrats to your kid! My kid would love a d1 school but I’m not at all sure how that would work. In a perfect world, he’d find a good instate option (cheaper) with a team he likes. But that may be a fantasy for us.

How did your son pick a school if you don’t mind me asking? My dc is starting to hear from schools here and there- nothing too exciting but group invitations to come meet coaches for a day and that sort of thing- I’m sure tons of kids get these- but realistically is it wise to pay 75k+ a year for my dc to run at a d3 school? Idk. I can’t easily afford that tuition but I could take some loans I suppose. But that isn’t ideal at all.

What are d2 schools like btw? I really know very little.

Do you mean Mile split btw? That’s what we use to track races.