3rd grade CES data

[Anonymous]

When do they start collecting data for the CES lottery? We're going on vacation sorting the school year and I don't want to miss the tests they need for CED

[Anonymous]

I think it's Q2 grades and winter MAP scores. I wouldn't get all that worked up over it. Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days. With the even lower bar for IEP, 504, FARMS etc the odds are really a lot worse than 1 in 15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's Q2 grades and winter MAP scores. I wouldn't get all that worked up over it. Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days. With the even lower bar for IEP, 504, FARMS etc the odds are really a lot worse than 1 in 15.

Thanks, good point. They won't get in anyway

[Anonymous]

"Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days." - what do you mean the "top kids rarely get picked" it's a lottery, so once the kid is in the pool, they have as much chance as any other kid in the same pool. Granted if the pool is watered down, there is more competition, but my original point stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days." - what do you mean the "top kids rarely get picked" it's a lottery, so once the kid is in the pool, they have as much chance as any other kid in the same pool. Granted if the pool is watered down, there is more competition, but my original point stands.

Yes, it's a lottery of the top 15% and another 15% that are added to that to cover exceptions. Even if you ignore the second group a 99% student would have a 1 in 15 chance to get picked. With the old system the 99% would get picked almost every time. The top kids are rarely selected these days. I think it was a good program but they may as well cancel it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days." - what do you mean the "top kids rarely get picked" it's a lottery, so once the kid is in the pool, they have as much chance as any other kid in the same pool. Granted if the pool is watered down, there is more competition, but my original point stands.

Yes, it's a lottery of the top 15% and another 15% that are added to that to cover exceptions. Even if you ignore the second group a 99% student would have a 1 in 15 chance to get picked. With the old system the 99% would get picked almost every time. The top kids are rarely selected these days. I think it was a good program but they may as well cancel it.

Thank you for the reply, I was not aware of the "secondary 15%" for exemptions ... must be one of those "everyone is special" policies. Unfortunate that it hinders the top performers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Getting in the pool is easy, but the top kids rarely get picked these days." - what do you mean the "top kids rarely get picked" it's a lottery, so once the kid is in the pool, they have as much chance as any other kid in the same pool. Granted if the pool is watered down, there is more competition, but my original point stands.

Yes, it's a lottery of the top 15% and another 15% that are added to that to cover exceptions. Even if you ignore the second group a 99% student would have a 1 in 15 chance to get picked. With the old system the 99% would get picked almost every time. The top kids are rarely selected these days. I think it was a good program but they may as well cancel it.

Thank you for the reply, I was not aware of the "secondary 15%" for exemptions ... must be one of those "everyone is special" policies. Unfortunate that it hinders the top performers.

There is a lower bar for students with FARMS, 504s , ESL etc. The idea is that if they did well despite this disadvantage they deserve a chance at these programs. I agree with this but the problem comes down to that the very students who need this enrichment the most are rarely getting it.