Also, just for everyone's clarification, Kamala got Biden's campaign money

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There's no debate about this, it's already gone through with the FEC which is the body which would regulate this:

https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00703975/?cycle=2024

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And Biden can legally give Kamala all of his delegates, same as how Haley gave her delegates to Trump.

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Let’s do this!

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Anonymous wrote:And Biden can legally give Kamala all of his delegates, same as how Haley gave her delegates to Trump.

No need for any more BS on these subjects. Thanks for the addition. I think Jeff should create a sticky with these basic truths that we can point trolls to—give them a chance to understand and then he can boot them.

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FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

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Anonymous wrote:And Biden can legally give Kamala all of his delegates, same as how Haley gave her delegates to Trump.

Haley encouraged her delegates to vote for Trump.

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who unsuccessfully ran for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, is releasing all 97 of her delegates and encouraging them to support former President Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee next week, a spokeswoman for Haley tells NPR.

Haley's encouragement to RNC delegates to back Trump was first reported by Politico.

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

Its already done. There is nothing to sue or anything. Money is already in Harris's hands.

But by all means, please spend the time and money suing.

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Anonymous wrote:And Biden can legally give Kamala all of his delegates, same as how Haley gave her delegates to Trump.

The Post is reporting that she now has the support of the majority of the delegates.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/22/2024-election-biden-kamala-harris-campaign-updates/

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

If there is a statutory requirement that the complaint go through the agency first the entity cannot sue. I am not sure about federal election law but I work in an agency with a similar requirement.

And the FEC, which is 3-3 R/D (ie deadlocked) has 120 days to make a decision. Which it can’t. Because deadlocked. And 120 from now is… too late to matter.

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

They won't have any standing for a lawsuit or injunction if they aren't going through the FEC's process.

Listen up. Ending the Democrat Party once and for all is well worth ignoring standing and looking corrupt.

“Ignoring the law is worth it to establish authoritarian rule”. You think this is a winning position in America?

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

It does say in forbes that any lawsuit would not be settled until after the election.

Forbes is wrong. The courts can do anything they want as quickly as they want. So they can quickly issue the emergency injunction freezing the money. The courts can then leave it in place while they drag their feet on the substantive issue of whether Harris can use the money. Winning!

Too late!

But if that's your plan, talk about weaponizing the justice system!

Anyway, she got $81 million in the last 24 hours, and if a conservative judge tried to freeze Biden's money the donors would refill her coffers in a day or two.

Weaponizing the justice system!

Heavens to Betsy! Why would anyone ever do such a terrible thing?

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

It does say in forbes that any lawsuit would not be settled until after the election.

Forbes is wrong. The courts can do anything they want as quickly as they want. So they can quickly issue the emergency injunction freezing the money. The courts can then leave it in place while they drag their feet on the substantive issue of whether Harris can use the money. Winning!

Too late!

But if that's your plan, talk about weaponizing the justice system!

Anyway, she got $81 million in the last 24 hours, and if a conservative judge tried to freeze Biden's money the donors would refill her coffers in a day or two.

Perhaps some “official act” would suffice?

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

It does matter. There is no standing. The FEC transferred the money. There is nothing to enjoin. Although I gotta say— “we can do nothing because our Judge is Waco will rubber stamp it and so will SCOTUS” is exactly why people are so excited to vote for not Trump. “our pet judge in Tx will impose any nationwide law we want and SCOTUS won’t stop him”. Do you hear yourself.

If this happens, which is really quite possible given what we have seen judges do lately, it would be really, really wild.

It would also hand Kamala the win. Oddly, authoritarianism isn’t a winning platform.

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Anonymous wrote:FEC chair Sean Cooksey—a Trump appointee who’s one of six commissioners at the agency—questioned Harris getting Biden’s donations in an interview with NPR Monday and said he expects there to be legal challenges, including in federal court. Calling the situation “unprecedented” and “really complicated,” Cooksey classified Biden’s handoff to Harris as “giv[ing] his entire committee, the cash and all the assets, over to another person” and said the changeover is likely “gonna have to go through a process” at the FEC. Cooksey suggested to NPR that since filing a complaint with the FEC can be a slow process, he thinks “there’s going to be a lot of challenges in the courts as well.” It’s unclear if those challenges would be legally sound, however: Both Weiner and Chlopak told Forbes they didn’t believe challengers wouldn’t be able to go straight to federal court without taking any complaints to the FEC first. Chlopak noted litigants could challenge the FEC slow-walking any complaints in court if the agency hasn’t made any moves within 120 days of the complaint being filed, but even if a FEC complaint were filed this week, that deadline would still fall after Election Day.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/07/22/can-the-gop-sue-over-harris-getting-bidens-campaign-funds-sure---but-it-likely-wont-work/

The money is in her campaign fund, it's being spent. If the FEC ever does anything it won't be until after the election. Most likely outcome, a 3-3 vote, vote fails, no action taken.

None of this matters. File the lawsuit in Waco. Trump judge issues nationwide injunction against spending the money. Fifth Circuit affirms, SCOTUS takes its time deliberating while leaving the injunction in place. Harris goes bankrupt. Trump wins.

It does matter. There is no standing. The FEC transferred the money. There is nothing to enjoin. Although I gotta say— “we can do nothing because our Judge is Waco will rubber stamp it and so will SCOTUS” is exactly why people are so excited to vote for not Trump. “our pet judge in Tx will impose any nationwide law we want and SCOTUS won’t stop him”. Do you hear yourself.

If this happens, which is really quite possible given what we have seen judges do lately, it would be really, really wild.

It would also hand Kamala the win. Oddly, authoritarianism isn’t a winning platform.

I hope you are right- I think people don’t seem to understand how serious this is and how far judges are overreaching.