Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

No idea what team will play but it's highly unlikely Taytay would play the Superbowl, seeing as how the performers don't get paid. Not her thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

The only point was to show that biology is only one factor. There are benefits to waiting. Taylor is 33 years old… Ridiculous to claim that she’s past the age of being able to have kids.

She’s turning 34 in a few weeks. I’m her she. I’m feeling too old to have a third child! I can certainly imagine feeling pressure if I was starting over at her age.

I started at 34. It’s not too old. What’s up with all of these asinine posts today? Honestly!

It’s cultural for some to start at 21 and be grandparents sub 50

Pretty sure 30-something self-made billionaire women aren't part of that culture.

Even if they weren’t rich, both Taylor and Travis had mothers who started on kids in their 30s. Neither had a young mother. So it isn’t part of their family “culture.”

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She's been invited and turned down the super bowl 9 times. I don't think the 10th invite would be any different

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

No idea what team will play but it's highly unlikely Taytay would play the Superbowl, seeing as how the performers don't get paid. Not her thing.

Wait how are they going to secure the chiefs spot in the Super Bowl

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

No idea what team will play but it's highly unlikely Taytay would play the Superbowl, seeing as how the performers don't get paid. Not her thing.

Wait how are they going to secure the chiefs spot in the Super Bowl

Please don’t add realism to the Swifties’ thoughts. Taylor=Jesus=God. Bend and agree because Swifties support all women.

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This is total fan fiction (from a semi-fan) but -

It is a cliche that if you break up a long-term relationship because you wanted to get married and they weren’t ready, following that you have one hot rebound fling. Then, you find the next suitable/compatible person and marry them on a fairly accelerated schedule.

It is not settling exactly, it is more that, you realize you are ready to get married so you prioritize picking someone with the same intention and prioritize all the other stuff less.

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I see it that way too PP. I really knew nothing about Joe, was a mild fan until my daughter really introduced me to her, so I don’t have this rabid fan history. And it seems kinda clear that she’s following that trajectory!

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

Joe is a dud. A talentless nepo with control issues.

DP. It’s wild to see the swifties turn so strongly on this person who hasn’t said a single word about the breakup.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

He is generally regarded as one of the nicest people in the NFL. If you've seen him on his podcast or in interviews, you would see that he has a zest for life that is infectious, and he's a family-first kind of guy. You may not enjoy football, fine, but to refer to him as vile or an idiot or all these other names floating around here, it's just not warranted. Plenty of NFLers it would apply to but not this guy. She really did choose a good one here.

Counterpoint- Catching Kelley. He was pretty vile on there.

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*kelce. Autocorrect

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

He is so vile. I hope Taylor isn't touching his dirty ****. This is two gross boys in a row for her. Really slumming it in the gutter since Joe.

He is generally regarded as one of the nicest people in the NFL. If you've seen him on his podcast or in interviews, you would see that he has a zest for life that is infectious, and he's a family-first kind of guy. You may not enjoy football, fine, but to refer to him as vile or an idiot or all these other names floating around here, it's just not warranted. Plenty of NFLers it would apply to but not this guy. She really did choose a good one here.

Counterpoint- Catching Kelley. He was pretty vile on there.

He himself has admitted how much he hated it and how awful it was. Have you seen him with his nieces? His sister in law? His mother?

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PSA: no one cares when you, your cousin, your sister, your neighbor had kids.

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Fun uncle ≠ good dad

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Anonymous wrote:If this is legit, the timing will go like this:
Summer 2024 - engagement
Late 2024 - finish the Eras international tour
Feb 2025 - TS performs Eras at the Super Bowl, the exclamation point finale to the tour
May/June 2025 - wedding
Fall 2025 - announce pregnancy, long break from touring

This is exactly what I'm thinking. I also think that Midnights was a breakup album and Taylor and Travis have been together since at least May if not before. There's a video circulating of Taylor in a golf cart at a stadium during a run-through and she's wearing a bright red & yellow shirt under a hoodie. Someone found the exact shirt online and it's a Chiefs shirt. Those are also two colors that Taylor doesn't wear under normal circumstances.

I think she'll do the 2025 Super Bowl where the Chiefs will also play. I think he'll retire after the 2025 super bowl. He'll be turning 36 that year and that's pretty old in the NFL, especially for a tight end. She will go on a hiatus from shows and tours, possibly until she's almost 40 or when she turns 40.

The delusion.

Travis was with an IG “model” in May. Said IG model was attending some of TK’s games up until last month.

There is no "IG model."

Taylor and Travis first met in person in August, when he had a mustache, in NYC.

They may have met in August, but he was still communicating with other women. There was even a German athlete he was interested in recently. Wonder if they connected during the game there.

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Anonymous wrote:I know I’m being a total sap but I love this so much. I love the video of Travis and her dad. I think her dad is just as smitten! I might be naive but I don’t care, this is sweet stuff. I love love.

This exactly. I hope they get married and have a bunch of kids.

She’s 33, better hurry if she wants kids!

This is dumb af. Plenty of regular career women wait longer than that to have kids. I’m pregnant now at 30 and the average age at my OB’s office is 38 (although that isn’t all first pregnancies).

OBs lie, dear. The are salesmen/women at the end of the day. And they get paid the more old hags they can extract $30,000+ from. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Often the mother and/or baby has health issues. It is so strange how this forum tries to act like waiting until you're too old to be a mom naturally is cool, when it is actually depressing (if more ways than one) and unnatural.

Brunch granny has discovered Taylor swift!

I had my second baby mid 30s and it was not hard and there was nothing unnatural about it.

People choosing to have kids when they are considered advanced in maternal age is not really a problem for the rest of us to be concerned about. Even if they die before their kids are grown adults, I am guessing they will leave enough resources behind to ensure their kids are well provided for. I just looked up Antony Blinken. He is 61 and has a three year old child at home. Should he be home working on potty training or traveling from country to country as he's doing? Nobody questions when men have children late. So he might not be able to walk his daughter down the aisle or have a father-daughter dance with her at the wedding. Big whoop. Before you ask, his spouse is 52. TS has a billionaire dollars at her disposal. She can do whatever she wants.

Our country's special education numbers have grown dramatically in no small part due to this line of thinking.

N = 1, but: Yale grad, PhD. Public schools. No special services of any kind at any point. My Mom was 39 when I was born. I do wear glasses though, but now, at my age, most people do.

DP. I am sure your Yale education taught you that anecdotes are not data. It is well established by now that older eggs and sperm have a higher number of chromosomal alterations, and that the number of alterations tends to increase linearly with age (particularly for sperm). I think people believe that if there’s no miscarriage the embryo is just as healthy as one from younger parents. It’s unfortunately not the case. Chromosomal deletions and duplications are linked to all kinds of things including conditions that affect cognitive functioning and mental health.

If you use data to support your positions on other issues like gun violence and climate change, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to ignore data on other topics just because it goes against what you want to believe.

NP but you are cherry picking your own data. Women don't have babies in a vacuum, they have them in the real world. There is no arguing that because of sociodemographic factors, it is much better for a baby to be born to a late 30s/early 40s mom than an early 20s one. These.are.facts. Look up rates of crimes, high school graduation, overall health, etc. and you will find older moms have kids who are better off, OVERWHELMINGLY.

Talk about cherry picking! Why would the only two comparison groups be early 20s vs. late 30s/early 40s? Why exclude ages 25-35? Oh because it wouldn't fit your argument, would it?

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You can’t possibly be this dumb, can you? The point is biology versus socioeconomic demographics, so yes, you show both ends of the spectrum. a woman is very fertile and has high-quality eggs at age 20, but women who have babies much later in life tend to be much more educated, have stable, careers, and stable lives. That’s the point.

Nope, you’re the one missing the point. No one here is arguing for women to have babies at 20 years old. There’s an optimal age range that balances biology and SES demographics, and you know darn well it isn’t age 40. You created a strawman argument because the data don’t support what you want to be true.

Anyway. I agree with PP that this is stupid to discuss about a celebrity no one here knows personally who may not want children at all.

The only point was to show that biology is only one factor. There are benefits to waiting. Taylor is 33 years old… Ridiculous to claim that she’s past the age of being able to have kids.

She’s turning 34 in a few weeks. I’m her she. I’m feeling too old to have a third child! I can certainly imagine feeling pressure if I was starting over at her age.

I started at 34. It’s not too old. What’s up with all of these asinine posts today? Honestly!

Tell that to the millions of women in their mid 30s who discover they are too old to get pregnant, you genius.

Millions, really? Source please. Because I live in NYC where no one starts trying until their 30s. I had incredibly easy, healthy, natural pregnancies in my late 30s and early 40s. Pregnant on the first try. So did many others around me. In fact I know zero friends who struggled to get pregnant, but several accidental pregnancies incl my bestie who just had an oopsie baby at 45!