APS and IEP expectations

[Anonymous]

I will be posting this in special needs too, but had a question…

DC was in a private, but the curriculum couldn’t accomodate their needs and they fell behind. So we switched to APS.

The first years we saw great strides. But this year it seems like they aren’t making any. They brought home their schoolbooks yesterday. And most of the pages were blank. When I asked why they said no one cared if they took notes or did the work. When asked about tests they told me the only would answer half the questions. And my concern is their grades are inflated as a result.

I’ve heard that kids on IEPS are often pushed along and not held to the standards. I’m concerned that this is happening and we have a summer of catch up tutoring lined up. Has anyone else with an IEP kid noticed this? (We only have our IEP child in APS. The others remained in private for Elem and MS and are now APS HS so I can’t compare).

[Anonymous]

Yes. This is a big problem. Lots of grade inflation and low expectations in general. And more so for students with disabilities. Get a tutor this summer and keep them.

[Anonymous]

my kid switched school, both aps ES schools. When they switched, they were 2 letter grades behind according to the new school. So yes, it happens.

That said, my other kid's books came home too and much of it is empty.

[Anonymous]

CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

What is used instead?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

Which school? Our school used it. We got the tear out parent sheet for every new unit.

[Anonymous]

Here's the thing that research shows about IEPs: Kids with IEPs generally do worse than kids with disabilities without IEPs. Yes, really. All my friends who teach sped tell me they'd never want their own kids to have an IEP if they had a disability. Whatever happens, you will want to supplement heavily at home or privately and even then, who knows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing that research shows about IEPs: Kids with IEPs generally do worse than kids with disabilities without IEPs. Yes, really. All my friends who teach sped tell me they'd never want their own kids to have an IEP if they had a disability. Whatever happens, you will want to supplement heavily at home or privately and even then, who knows.

troll post

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing that research shows about IEPs: Kids with IEPs generally do worse than kids with disabilities without IEPs. Yes, really. All my friends who teach sped tell me they'd never want their own kids to have an IEP if they had a disability. Whatever happens, you will want to supplement heavily at home or privately and even then, who knows.

Does that apply to 504 too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing that research shows about IEPs: Kids with IEPs generally do worse than kids with disabilities without IEPs. Yes, really. All my friends who teach sped tell me they'd never want their own kids to have an IEP if they had a disability. Whatever happens, you will want to supplement heavily at home or privately and even then, who knows.

Does that apply to 504 too?

^ or is that what is meant by "kids with disabilities without IEP"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing that research shows about IEPs: Kids with IEPs generally do worse than kids with disabilities without IEPs. Yes, really. All my friends who teach sped tell me they'd never want their own kids to have an IEP if they had a disability. Whatever happens, you will want to supplement heavily at home or privately and even then, who knows.

Interesting. Source?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

What is used instead?!

A small portion of all of the sheets. And the paper is terrible quality so tearing it out of workbooks is very difficult for kids. Yes, even with direct instruction and lessons on how to tear page out. It just makes more sense, although it’s a waste of paper and ink, to print out the selected pages teachers actually need to use.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

What is used instead?!

A small portion of all of the sheets. And the paper is terrible quality so tearing it out of workbooks is very difficult for kids. Yes, even with direct instruction and lessons on how to tear page out. It just makes more sense, although it’s a waste of paper and ink, to print out the selected pages teachers actually need to use.

A small portion of all of the sheets?

But the workbooks aren’t huge to begin with. They can’t consume the whole thing?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CKLA workbooks: we only do about half the pages for the units we complete. Many related to the writing project we have redone into packets at our school because it’s more cohesive and organized that way, and we tailor the specifics of the project to our standards.

The units we don’t complete we toss or give to kids because APS gets full replacements every year as part of the contract with ckla
Even if we didn’t use them. A total waste.

Envision math: this program sucks and is only aligned to the SOLS in a small section at the back of the book. We don’t use them by and large and it was a huge waste of money for APS to get this program and then opt to barely use it but I can only do so much as a classroom teacher so I send them home mostly unused and hope you’ll complain at the utter uselessness of this non-aligned resource APS chooses to implement incorrectly.

The amount of unused pages in our CKLA workbooks is so ridiculous that the APS ELA dept. asked us to stop sending home intact books. I imagine the math department isn’t far behind.

What is used instead?!

A small portion of all of the sheets. And the paper is terrible quality so tearing it out of workbooks is very difficult for kids. Yes, even with direct instruction and lessons on how to tear page out. It just makes more sense, although it’s a waste of paper and ink, to print out the selected pages teachers actually need to use.

A small portion of all of the sheets?

But the workbooks aren’t huge to begin with. They can’t consume the whole thing?!

I’m in upper elementary so YMMV, but our CKLA workbooks are huge. (As are the similarly wasteful math workbooks.)