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My understanding is that Jesus was Jewish but also the founder of Christianity. How did that happen?
I’m not interested in debating what is true. I just want to know the story of how it is supposed to have happened, whether you believe it or not. |
| What do you mean? He was born of Jewish parents. Then he started a new religion. Not that hard to understand. |
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https://www.gotquestions.org/who-is-Jesus.html
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Jew-Christians-Jewish.html Second link specifically answers your question. |
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If Jesus was a Jew, why aren’t Christians Jewish?
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Jew-Christians-Jewish.html |
| If you have questions about the Bible or general Christianity, that site is a better resource than asking anonymous strangers in an anonymous, public forum. Lots of trolls post here. We can see from the thread asking about pediatric cancer that people who are not religious will rush to immediately post even though they are not the people op asked to talk to. Lots of rude and ignorant people online. |
| Jesus became Christian when John the Baptist baptized him. |
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“I’m not interested in debating what is true. I just want to know the story of how it is supposed to have happened, whether you believe it or not.“
I am glad you added that part op. Threads here often go off topic and the original question gets lost. |
| Jesus always considered himself a Jew. But he taught things that conflicted with Judaism (no dietary rules, no respect for Pharisees, hanging out with “unclean” women and the make dregs of society, etc). After Jesus’ death the rift between his followers and traditional Jews widened (you can see this happening in Paul’s letters), and his followers became known as Christians. |
| Christianity was originally what you could call a Jewish sect. The Jewish religion does call for a messiah, and a group of Jews believed they had found one, and the word spread and the group became larger and larger, and eventually they began to convert non-Jews. Eventually, the gentile portion of the group became larger than the Jewish portion, and there was even some tension between gentile and Jewish Christians (they are actually referred to that way in some very old writings). Eventually the movement became disassociated with Judaism entirely and so now we have a whole separate religion. |
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This is not hard.
Is was ethnically Jewish and of the Jewish heritage and religion. He then started, and therefore became a believer in, a new religion. This is really no different from anybody converting to, or adopting a new religion. |
| Mmm. I think that Jesus considered himself Jewish. It’s the later followers, especially Paul, who invented the religion that we call “Christianity.” |
+1 Here's a great book on it. I put some of the snippets below to explain better than I ever could. https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Apocalyptic-Prophet-New-Millennium/dp/019512474X "Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet -- meaning that the core of his teachings was that the world as his generation knew it would soon come to an end and a new age (the Kingdom of God) would be ushered in by what Ehrman calls a "cosmic judge" known as the Son of Man. " In his view, Jesus was not the Son of Man but he was ushering in the Son of Man. Basically, Dr. Erhman points out that Jesus was not only a teacher but was convinced like many apocalyptic prophets that "the end is nigh". Therefore his teachings were aimed at what one must do to be "saved" when the end comes at an early date. Paul was similarly convinced but he and the rest of Christendom found it convenient to change the page when the end didn't come when prophesied. There was then a shift of meaning: the teachings, often unrealistic, were changed to be what life should be based on and consequently influenced the development of Western Civilization until this day. |
What a moron. |
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[quote=Anonymous]Jesus always considered himself a Jew. But he taught things that conflicted with Judaism (no dietary rules, no respect for Pharisees, hanging out with “unclean” women and the make dregs of society, etc). After Jesus’ death the rift between his followers and traditional Jews widened (you can see this happening in Paul’s letters), and his followers became known as Christians. [/quote]
Correct. He never set out to create a new religion. |
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If Jesus intended to create a new religion, He went about it in an unconventional manner. He aroused the suspicion and hostility of the religious establishment. He picked an oddball assortment of disciples. He allowed Himself to fall into harm’s way, and be tortured and killed. He left no writings of his own, and after making a good start, generally avoided performing signs and wonders that were convincing the crowds to follow Him.
From that time Jesus began to preach and say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” Jesus intended to bring people to God. |