What happens if someone fails senior year?

[Anonymous]

MY DS friend who he knew since 4th grade, was told if he doesn't earned A in his final in his math class he will not be graduating, does anyone know someone who didn't graduate? Will they just pass him in summer school? Would you say anything when he comes over?

[Anonymous]

Depends on how old they are. If they’re still 18 when the new school year starts, they have to come back and repeat whatever classes they failed. If they’re 19, and not sped or EL designated, they cannot begin a school year at that age and need to get their GED. Most districts no longer do summer school (only garbage “credit recovery”) so that’s likely not an option. If he needs an A this quarter it likely means he got a 50 floor for quarters 1,2,3 and the only way to average a 60 for the year (passing) is to get a 90 this quarter.

Anecdotally, I’ve never seen in a student in that position, grade-wise, pull it out. If they’re failing the course this late in the year, especially in math, which builds on itself and demands mastery of skills along the way to complete the final quarter content, they tend to fail it. Depending on how bad he fails it he MAY be eligible for credit recovery but it would mean he doesn’t walk because he won’t be cleared to graduate.

It should be said that with all the “safety net” policies in place now (50 floor, endless retakes, credit recovery, etc), a kid truly has to TRY to let it get this bad. It is not just zero effort- it is zero effort AND avoiding taking any of the help offered. I do not feel bad for them anymore when they’re in this position. There’s so many enabling policies built in to help them that if they manage to be failing despite all that, they deserve to.

-hs teacher

[Anonymous]

Where I work it’s simple, years ago, they would complete the course in summer school or come back and take it the next year.

That doesn’t happen now. Admin will come to the teacher and ask what alternative assignment can be given to prove competency. The student will be given a fluff busy work quick assignment to do to earn the pass. If for teacher refuses to do this, they somehow pass anyway and walk at graduation. Same if the student doesn’t complete the fluff assignment. The only ones who do not graduate are students who voluntarily drop out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where I work it’s simple, years ago, they would complete the course in summer school or come back and take it the next year.

That doesn’t happen now. Admin will come to the teacher and ask what alternative assignment can be given to prove competency. The student will be given a fluff busy work quick assignment to do to earn the pass. If for teacher refuses to do this, they somehow pass anyway and walk at graduation. Same if the student doesn’t complete the fluff assignment. The only ones who do not graduate are students who voluntarily drop out.

+1 The school does not want the kid back next year. The parents do not want him to return. They find a way to pass him. My nephew refused to attend school the last quarter of his senior year. He graduated and his well ranked college did not care either. No I would not say anything unless he brings it up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on how old they are. If they’re still 18 when the new school year starts, they have to come back and repeat whatever classes they failed. If they’re 19, and not sped or EL designated, they cannot begin a school year at that age and need to get their GED. Most districts no longer do summer school (only garbage “credit recovery”) so that’s likely not an option. If he needs an A this quarter it likely means he got a 50 floor for quarters 1,2,3 and the only way to average a 60 for the year (passing) is to get a 90 this quarter.

Anecdotally, I’ve never seen in a student in that position, grade-wise, pull it out. If they’re failing the course this late in the year, especially in math, which builds on itself and demands mastery of skills along the way to complete the final quarter content, they tend to fail it. Depending on how bad he fails it he MAY be eligible for credit recovery but it would mean he doesn’t walk because he won’t be cleared to graduate.

It should be said that with all the “safety net” policies in place now (50 floor, endless retakes, credit recovery, etc), a kid truly has to TRY to let it get this bad. It is not just zero effort- it is zero effort AND avoiding taking any of the help offered. I do not feel bad for them anymore when they’re in this position. There’s so many enabling policies built in to help them that if they manage to be failing despite all that, they deserve to.

-hs teacher

Credit recovery is exactly what this kid needs -- earn credit for the class he failed and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on how old they are. If they’re still 18 when the new school year starts, they have to come back and repeat whatever classes they failed. If they’re 19, and not sped or EL designated, they cannot begin a school year at that age and need to get their GED. Most districts no longer do summer school (only garbage “credit recovery”) so that’s likely not an option. If he needs an A this quarter it likely means he got a 50 floor for quarters 1,2,3 and the only way to average a 60 for the year (passing) is to get a 90 this quarter.

Anecdotally, I’ve never seen in a student in that position, grade-wise, pull it out. If they’re failing the course this late in the year, especially in math, which builds on itself and demands mastery of skills along the way to complete the final quarter content, they tend to fail it. Depending on how bad he fails it he MAY be eligible for credit recovery but it would mean he doesn’t walk because he won’t be cleared to graduate.

It should be said that with all the “safety net” policies in place now (50 floor, endless retakes, credit recovery, etc), a kid truly has to TRY to let it get this bad. It is not just zero effort- it is zero effort AND avoiding taking any of the help offered. I do not feel bad for them anymore when they’re in this position. There’s so many enabling policies built in to help them that if they manage to be failing despite all that, they deserve to.

-hs teacher

Credit recovery is exactly what this kid needs -- earn credit for the class he failed and move on.

Credit recovery is an absolute joke. Kids who turned in zero work all year do 3 little worksheets and get a 60%. We might as well just hand them diplomas the day they walk in for 9th grade and then tell them to have fun vaping and walking the halls for the next 4 years at this point.

[Anonymous]

In the old days, kid would be given a certificate of attendance instead of a diploma at graduation. Now the school will find a way to have student pass and graduate.

[Anonymous]

FCPS will go out of their way to obfuscate numbers and statistics; as PPs have stated, this DC will graduate unless or until there’s an actual drop out (never happens). Everyone graduates - panic may ensue behind the scenes (kind of like when an ES student fails an SOL), but this is when the “resources” flow forth - in the form of extra credit work, maybe a counseling session, a re test.

This student will graduate.

[Anonymous]

They will not walk and will need to take credit recovery this summer. There is an alternative graduation ceremony in August for all the kids in this boat in the county. I have 2 kids this year in the exact same position (though I told them if they can demonstrate a passing score on the final exam next week I will give them the D, since that's probably more work than credit recovery anyway)