Too many electronics, no privacy, no longevity

[Anonymous]

I would pay a premium for a new car with minimal electronics.

No one wants your infotainment system. No one wants a car connected to the internet, spying on them and sending information back to insurers and marketers. We want physical buttons, not distracting touchscreens. And please please please keep AI out of our cars.

Exceptions: Backup camera, rear cross traffic alert, OnStar. But the vast majority of electronic "features" are just junk that will break, quickly get outdated, pose risks from hackers, and reduce the overall life of the car.

I know, this is too much to ask.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/technology/regulators-investigate-carmakers-driver-tracking.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html

https://therecord.media/car-data-privacy-service-wiping

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/connected-cars-illegal-data-collection-and-use-now-on-ftcs-radar/

https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/06/mozilla_vehicle_data_privacy/

[Anonymous]

Agreeeeeee!
I'm not actively shopping for a car, so haven't been paying much attention to the "features" but when a story like "car in crash sent data to the insurance company and they denied claim" comes up, i'm like WHAT IS HAPPENING

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one wants your infotainment system.

False. CarPlay is awesome.

OP, you can disconnect that stuff if you're willing to watch some youtube videos.

[Anonymous]

Mom, is that you?

Love my CarPlay. My car is a ‘23 and has touch screen and actual buttons, and so did every other car I test drove. I don’t mind my car having internet, honestly.

But can we please get rid of auto stop? For the love of god.

[Anonymous]

I love CarPlay because I can listen to podcasts and audiobooks on long trips. But you do your casset-tape-through-the-speaker-system, op.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would pay a premium for a new car with minimal electronics.

No one wants your infotainment system. No one wants a car connected to the internet, spying on them and sending information back to insurers and marketers. We want physical buttons, not distracting touchscreens. And please please please keep AI out of our cars.

Exceptions: Backup camera, rear cross traffic alert, OnStar. But the vast majority of electronic "features" are just junk that will break, quickly get outdated, pose risks from hackers, and reduce the overall life of the car.

I know, this is too much to ask.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/technology/regulators-investigate-carmakers-driver-tracking.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html

https://therecord.media/car-data-privacy-service-wiping

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/connected-cars-illegal-data-collection-and-use-now-on-ftcs-radar/

https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/06/mozilla_vehicle_data_privacy/

Same-same.


I’m probably never going to buy a new car again - they just don’t do anything for me, AND they kind of suck now. But I’m becoming intensely interested in restored older cars.

[Anonymous]

I am the opposite. I love all of the safety features. I love that my car will stop before I hit anything/body or back into anything/body. I love that it warns me when I'm veering out of my lane. I love carplay and GPS. I would love to have a car that can drive itself. My next car will be a Tesla because I love the always-on 360 degree view - I think it will make some of the insane highspeed merges around here a lot easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would pay a premium for a new car with minimal electronics.

No one wants your infotainment system. No one wants a car connected to the internet, spying on them and sending information back to insurers and marketers. We want physical buttons, not distracting touchscreens. And please please please keep AI out of our cars.

Exceptions: Backup camera, rear cross traffic alert, OnStar. But the vast majority of electronic "features" are just junk that will break, quickly get outdated, pose risks from hackers, and reduce the overall life of the car.

I know, this is too much to ask.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/technology/regulators-investigate-carmakers-driver-tracking.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html

https://therecord.media/car-data-privacy-service-wiping

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/connected-cars-illegal-data-collection-and-use-now-on-ftcs-radar/

https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/06/mozilla_vehicle_data_privacy/

Consider a brand new Toyota GR86 or Subaru BRZ.

[Anonymous]

I love my safety features and Apple CarPlay.

Holy crap on the tracking and selling the data to insurance companies. I just turned off driveview on my Volkswagen.

[Anonymous]

Agree, 80% of the features are garbage and worthless. All I need is a radio with Bluetooth connection to stream my own music. Literally do not need anything else. GPS is from phone already. Buttons and knobs are better for safety than screen everything. I don't need dual zone anything. Simple seats with mechanical adjustment. And a car that can go from A to B, that's it. US makers simply refuse to make cars under $25k anymore. It's so stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the opposite. I love all of the safety features. I love that my car will stop before I hit anything/body or back into anything/body. I love that it warns me when I'm veering out of my lane. I love carplay and GPS. I would love to have a car that can drive itself. My next car will be a Tesla because I love the always-on 360 degree view - I think it will make some of the insane highspeed merges around here a lot easier.

Honestly - you shouldn’t be driving. You sound incapable of it.