Would a child with extremely high verbal/average math or extremely high math/average verbal NOT get in?

[Anonymous]

Like 99% in one and 75% in the other?

[Anonymous]

Possibly. Very high verbal, avg math can be viewed as just an early reader - tends to even out in the next year or two. Very high math, avg verbal could be seen as a candidate for advanced math only, if the rest of the package doesn't support well enough.

[Anonymous]

Most likely scenario would be level 3 in one subject or push-in to level 4 for math.

[Anonymous]

If base school is not challenging enough then go for it. Admission is more open now. Just don't be in the bottom 50% of TJ.

[Anonymous]

It's holistic. Kids who are 99th percentile on both, but have low HOPE ratings likely won't get in. Kids who are relatively low in one or both, but have stellar HOPE ratings may get in.

Back when GBRS was used, the AAP review showed that GBRS was by far the strongest indicator of whether a kid got selected for AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's holistic. Kids who are 99th percentile on both, but have low HOPE ratings likely won't get in. Kids who are relatively low in one or both, but have stellar HOPE ratings may get in.

Back when GBRS was used, the AAP review showed that GBRS was by far the strongest indicator of whether a kid got selected for AAP.

And when they're coming from a different school district entirely and don't have HOPE ratings?

[Anonymous]

My theory is Level III is for one subject acceleration and Level IV is for two or more subject acceleration. So in your case your child might be perfect candidate for level III but not level IV.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, my DC had very low hope scores. DC received 5-6 rarely, a few oftens and maybe two always. DC got into AAP. I attribute it to their 99th percentile scores in NNAT, COGAT, math and reading Iready scores in first and second grade. I can’t agree that a high Hope score is an indicator of getting into AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, my DC had very low hope scores. DC received 5-6 rarely, a few oftens and maybe two always. DC got into AAP. I attribute it to their 99th percentile scores in NNAT, COGAT, math and reading Iready scores in first and second grade. I can’t agree that a high Hope score is an indicator of getting into AAP.

The point is that it’s holistic. They look at the full picture of the test scores, work samples, hope rating, parent questionnaires, and anything else in the packet. No one know how or why the committee makes the decisions they do. Every year, at least some kids with high scores get rejected. Every year, at least some kids with lower scores get in. The only thing you can do is apply and hope for the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, my DC had very low hope scores. DC received 5-6 rarely, a few oftens and maybe two always. DC got into AAP. I attribute it to their 99th percentile scores in NNAT, COGAT, math and reading Iready scores in first and second grade. I can’t agree that a high Hope score is an indicator of getting into AAP.

Do you feel superior now for bragging about your child instead of answering the question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Possibly. Very high verbal, avg math can be viewed as just an early reader - tends to even out in the next year or two. Very high math, avg verbal could be seen as a candidate for advanced math only, if the rest of the package doesn't support well enough.

This is essentially what happened for my current 3rd grader. Her math COGAT last year was good, significantly higher than verbal or nonverbal. Math has always been her strength. She did not get into level 4 for 3rd grade but is in level 3, with advanced math.

Thanks to what I assume were good teacher recs, very good iReadys this year, and what I thought was a pretty good parent questionnaire , she will be in level 4 next year.

She’s very curious, articulate, and analytical, the kind of kid you can often have adult-like conversations with, but she’s NOT an all-around 99th-percentile type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, my DC had very low hope scores. DC received 5-6 rarely, a few oftens and maybe two always. DC got into AAP. I attribute it to their 99th percentile scores in NNAT, COGAT, math and reading Iready scores in first and second grade. I can’t agree that a high Hope score is an indicator of getting into AAP.

Do you feel superior now for bragging about your child instead of answering the question?

DP, but a different PP brought up HOPE, and this PP appears to be providing a data point. At least it's not one of those snarky "your child may not cut it in AAP if (fill in the putdown of your choice)." Not sure why so many on DCUM need to be nasty.

[Anonymous]

Per this comment in a separate thread, there are plenty of level IV kids strong in just one topic

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/1199856.page#27475159

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per this comment in a separate thread, there are plenty of level IV kids strong in just one topic

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/1199856.page#27475159

Sorry linked wrong comment...

This one https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1204347.page#27475060

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, my DC had very low hope scores. DC received 5-6 rarely, a few oftens and maybe two always. DC got into AAP. I attribute it to their 99th percentile scores in NNAT, COGAT, math and reading Iready scores in first and second grade. I can’t agree that a high Hope score is an indicator of getting into AAP.

same here. We had 1 rarely and nothing above often. I was not happy esp. compared to "always" ratings disclosed on this board. But DS got in.