Question about heavy up for electrical panel

[Anonymous]

We are moving into a new home and would like to upgrade the electrical panel to 200 amps. Will the electrician need to pull a permit for this job?

[Anonymous]

Yes

[Anonymous]

Yes. And you want that sticker for when you go go sell the house.

[Anonymous]

Yes. In my experience (years ago when I bought my first house) it can be done quickly.

[Anonymous]

Yes.

And the gold standard in safe electrical panels are those made by “Square D”. Avoid “Federal Pacific Electric” panels no matter what - too many problems.

[Anonymous]

Thank you all!
I had an electrician suggest he could save us money by not getting a permit. It didn’t sit right with me, so I wanted to make sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

And the gold standard in safe electrical panels are those made by “Square D”. Avoid “Federal Pacific Electric” panels no matter what - too many problems.

https://inspectapedia.com/fpe/FPE-Hazards-Aronstein-2017-11-10.pdf

Test results for more than 3,000 Stab-Lok® breakers -- FPE and other brands -- form the foundation for the conclusions and recommendations presented in this report. Virtually every FPE Stab-Lok® panel installed in homes today contains circuit breakers that are seriously defective, and the panels should be replaced. Replacing only the circuit breakers, for instance with new UBI breakers, is likely to increase the risk of an electrical fire.

Also, Square D is not the gold standard, rather, choose Cutler-Hammer or Siemens with a copper bus, example SIEMENS S4260L3225 225-Amp Indoor Main Lug 42 Space, 60 Circuit 3-Phase Load Center, Copper Bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you all!
I had an electrician suggest he could save us money by not getting a permit. It didn’t sit right with me, so I wanted to make sure.

Good luck getting the power company to sign off on a heavy up without a permit.

But the real question for the OP is why do you want to heavy up now? Are you planning on an addition or major kitchen remodel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you all!
I had an electrician suggest he could save us money by not getting a permit. It didn’t sit right with me, so I wanted to make sure.

Good luck getting the power company to sign off on a heavy up without a permit.

But the real question for the OP is why do you want to heavy up now? Are you planning on an addition or major kitchen remodel?

We want to put in a charging station for an electric car, get a nice induction range and the whole house is on electric. No gas service.

[Anonymous]

You're going to need to replace the line coming into the house and the power company needs to be involved. Every one I've ever dealt with has insisted on doing everything strictly by the book.

I've dealt with power companies that required that the work be inspected by the town inspector, and then they sent out their own inspector to make sure it was to their standards before turning the power back on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

And the gold standard in safe electrical panels are those made by “Square D”. Avoid “Federal Pacific Electric” panels no matter what - too many problems.

What a load of nonsense. Square D is a great brand but they are not the “gold standard”. Eaton, specifically Eaton CR loadcenters, are if anything are closer to a “gold standard” than Square D.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. And you want that sticker for when you go go sell the house.

Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you all!
I had an electrician suggest he could save us money by not getting a permit. It didn’t sit right with me, so I wanted to make sure.

You absolutely need a permit and it could cause issues with homeowners insurance if there is a fire. Find a new electrician if they don't want to pull a permit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you all!
I had an electrician suggest he could save us money by not getting a permit. It didn’t sit right with me, so I wanted to make sure.

Good luck getting the power company to sign off on a heavy up without a permit.

But the real question for the OP is why do you want to heavy up now? Are you planning on an addition or major kitchen remodel?

We want to put in a charging station for an electric car, get a nice induction range and the whole house is on electric. No gas service.

If everything is electric you might want to make sure that 200 amps is enough.

[Anonymous]

You need the permit AND if you’re home isn’t compliant with current code you may need to add outlets.