Let's keep the outdoor dining, the streets reserved for walking, and the new bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:When it's 90 degrees with 80 percent humidity, there's nothing more I want to do than....go outside and ride a bike? That sounds awful.

All dressed up to go the bars and try to meet someone -- drenched in sweat and stinky with a wet butt from your bike ride.

With little kids in tow to go out to lunch or to a museum, who are then hot sweaty and crying when you get there an hour and a half later and want to go home, then vomit from heat stroke - - so, already exhausted, you turn around and bike back home with hot, sweaty, screaming kids, and then spontaneously combust halfway there.

Not the experience of people who actually do these things, but go on with your fiction-writing habits.

There is some truth here, let's be honest. You would go on a Tinder date and meet them on a hot August night after riding a mile or two on your bike? You ain't doing that.

Yes, people do that.

Those people are not getting a second date.

As far as I can tell from reading these threads, these bicycle people don't have a lot of common sense. Which is probably why they hate cars *because the are deadly* but refuse to obey any traffic laws.

Not with you, but that's ok.

I understand that you consider cycling an important part of your identity, so its important to show dates this. But yeah, definitely weird.

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I understand that you consider cycling an important part of your identity, so its important to show dates this. But yeah, definitely weird.

I consider cycling a means of transportation.

It seems to be an important part of your identity to anonymously hate on people who ride bicycles, which is definitely unusual. If you date, you should make sure your prospective partners know about this.

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I will help you. The 1% pay 40% of the taxes and the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. I’m saying the vast majority of the top 10% want to drive to work in their air conditioned car. They’ve worked hard and have earned this luxury. You may know a few HHI people who like to ride their bikes or crowd into a smelly METRO car, but they are the exception. If you make the commutes hellish for those 10%, those folks ain’t coming to work downtown. Restaurants will fail, commercial real estate will fail, small businesses of all types will fail.

Shorter PP: I prefer to drive and believe that society should be structured around this preference.

Whatever happened to share the road? I understand people don't like cars but we can't magically transform into Holland overnight. People are outraged when drivers point out the real hazards large numbers of bikers create on roads made for cars. Bike paths lay unused right next to the roads drivers are legit using to commute to work. Maybe deep in the CBD of DC car use can be more regulated (discouraged) but it doesn't work so well in the out lying burbs. And whether you like it or not, bikers do make the road unsafe just as drivers do. I can't tell you how many times of almost been hit by a driver trying to get around a biker in the opposite lane. That's not the driver's fault, that's the bikers fault. They are the obstruction that cannot maintain the speed limit, don't signal when turning, suddenly dart in front of moving cars without warning, fly through stop signs and red lights, etc. I'm not saying get rid of bikes, I'm saying getting rid of cars is simply impractical at present time.

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I understand that you consider cycling an important part of your identity, so its important to show dates this. But yeah, definitely weird.

I consider cycling a means of transportation.

It seems to be an important part of your identity to anonymously hate on people who ride bicycles, which is definitely unusual. If you date, you should make sure your prospective partners know about this.

I consider cars a means of transportation. I'm not going to get into the whole who's dating who discussion.

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I will help you. The 1% pay 40% of the taxes and the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. I’m saying the vast majority of the top 10% want to drive to work in their air conditioned car. They’ve worked hard and have earned this luxury. You may know a few HHI people who like to ride their bikes or crowd into a smelly METRO car, but they are the exception. If you make the commutes hellish for those 10%, those folks ain’t coming to work downtown. Restaurants will fail, commercial real estate will fail, small businesses of all types will fail.

Shorter PP: I prefer to drive and believe that society should be structured around this preference.

Whatever happened to share the road? I understand people don't like cars but we can't magically transform into Holland overnight. People are outraged when drivers point out the real hazards large numbers of bikers create on roads made for cars. Bike paths lay unused right next to the roads drivers are legit using to commute to work. Maybe deep in the CBD of DC car use can be more regulated (discouraged) but it doesn't work so well in the out lying burbs. And whether you like it or not, bikers do make the road unsafe just as drivers do. I can't tell you how many times of almost been hit by a driver trying to get around a biker in the opposite lane. That's not the driver's fault, that's the bikers fault. They are the obstruction that cannot maintain the speed limit, don't signal when turning, suddenly dart in front of moving cars without warning, fly through stop signs and red lights, etc. I'm not saying get rid of bikes, I'm saying getting rid of cars is simply impractical at present time.

True fact: the "share the road" sign was addressed to drivers. But drivers assumed it was addressed to bicyclists. That's why it's now officially an obsolete sign.

By the way, Holland also didn't magically transform into Holland overnight. It took a policy commitment and sustained effort.

Also, if you (while driving) are almost hit by another driver who is unsafely passing a bicyclist, then yes, that is the driver's fault. The driver is only allowed to pass the bicyclist when the driver can do so safely. That's the law.

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The bicycle is the slow death of the planet.

General Director of Euro Exim Bank Ltd. got economists thinking when he said:
"A cyclist is a disaster for the country's economy: he does not buy cars and does not borrow money to buy. He does not pay for insurance policies. He does not buy fuel, does not pay for the necessary maintenance and repairs. He does not use paid parking. He does not cause serious accidents. He does not require multi-lane highways. He does not get fat.

Healthy people are neither needed nor useful for the economy. They don't buy medicine. They do not go to hospitals or doctors. Nothing is added to the country's GDP (gross domestic product).

On the contrary, every new McDonald's restaurant creates at least 30 jobs: 10 cardiologists, 10 dentists, 10 dietary experts and nutritionists, and obviously, people who work at the restaurant itself."

Choose carefully: cyclist or McDonald's? It is worth considering.

P.S. Walking is even worse. Pedestrians don't even buy bicycles.

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True fact: sounds like you personally don’t understand the meaning of the word “share “. The level of entitlement some bikers possess would be amusing if it weren’t so astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:True fact: sounds like you personally don’t understand the meaning of the word “share “. The level of entitlement some bikers possess would be amusing if it weren’t so astounding.

You are entitled to your own opinion (e.g., bicyclists are failing to share the road with drivers) but not your own facts.

The fact is that the "bicyclist may use full lane" sign has replaced the obsolete "share the road" sign.

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In other words, bikers want full consideration from drivers and pedestrians even they show no consideration for either group. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:In other words, bikers want full consideration from drivers and pedestrians even they show no consideration for either group. Got it.

Exactly. Biggest whiners ever. They always talk about how the US can and should be more like the Netherlands with biking. Okay, first thing is that bikes in the Netherlands are required to follow traffic laws or else they get a ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:In other words, bikers want full consideration from drivers and pedestrians even they show no consideration for either group. Got it.

Exactly. Biggest whiners ever. They always talk about how the US can and should be more like the Netherlands with biking. Okay, first thing is that bikes in the Netherlands are required to follow traffic laws or else they get a ticket.

No, that's not the first thing in the Netherlands. Bike infrastructure is the first thing in the Netherlands.

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Why spend tax dollars on additional bicycle infrastructure when bikers disdain the existing infrastructure?

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Anonymous wrote:Why spend tax dollars on additional bicycle infrastructure when bikers disdain the existing infrastructure?

Dude. There is no such thing as "bikers". A bicyclist is anybody who rides a bicycle. And study after study after study shows that people are more likely to ride a bicycle when there is good, connected bicycle infrastructure.

If you drive, then you should SUPPORT good bicycle infrastructure. Why would you want more people in more cars getting in your way more?

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Anonymous wrote:Why spend tax dollars on additional bicycle infrastructure when bikers disdain the existing infrastructure?

Dude. There is no such thing as "bikers". A bicyclist is anybody who rides a bicycle. And study after study after study shows that people are more likely to ride a bicycle when there is good, connected bicycle infrastructure.

If you drive, then you should SUPPORT good bicycle infrastructure. Why would you want more people in more cars getting in your way more?

Hardly anyone in DC bikes. It would be interesting to divide DC's total spending on bike infrastructure by the number of people who use it. I wonder if it comes out to $1 million plus per bicyclist.

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Anonymous wrote:Why spend tax dollars on additional bicycle infrastructure when bikers disdain the existing infrastructure?

Dude. There is no such thing as "bikers". A bicyclist is anybody who rides a bicycle. And study after study after study shows that people are more likely to ride a bicycle when there is good, connected bicycle infrastructure.

If you drive, then you should SUPPORT good bicycle infrastructure. Why would you want more people in more cars getting in your way more?

Hardly anyone in DC bikes. It would be interesting to divide DC's total spending on bike infrastructure by the number of people who use it. I wonder if it comes out to $1 million plus per bicyclist.

It is also important to consider the geography of where the infrastructure is placed and the race of the users.