UMD vs Pitt
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Anonymous
My post about rankings is about undergraduate, not medical schools. Yes, Pitt has a top medical school and hospital, no doubt. The extent that it benefits undergrad pre-meds is based on taking advantage of research and other extracurricular activities in the medical school/hospital. Other than that, there is not much cross-contact between the undergraduate school and the medical school in a university, compared to the undergraduate and graduate schools (which share faculties, courses, facilities, etc.). |
Anonymous
Not necessarily true. At the top 20 that I attended (very big name), I had exposure to some graduate students. It's not like the graduate schools are sealed off from all undergrads. Usually if it's a research institution, there will be law, business and other graduate programs around, and buildings and such that you have access to for classes or professors. Same at UMD, as I'm sure that there is some crossover/exposure to the Smith school for undergrad business majors. And I'm sure that Wharton undergrads in no way ever tie their school to the Business School (never), etc. The point is that UMD and Pitt are not that dissimilar in ranking, in offering, and in outcome, etc. As several posters have noted, both have strengths and weaknesses as undergrad institutions. But to say that a top graduate program, top NIH research funding, and top rankings, and phenomenal exposure and opportunity to the types of activities needed to build a medical application are not important, is just not a sound argument. It's all baked into the pie. Undergrads looking to apply to a medical school typically have to have that hospital/clinic/shadowing exposure in a medical environment. They all have to take set science and other coursework that is taught by faculty from that school. And they all have to engage in research, and do other medical-related stuff while in undergrad. Both schools provide that backdrop, but all I am asserting is that Pitt stands out a bit more here as an undergrad. The offering is quite good. Plus, it's a smaller institution. UMD is a great undergrad, no doubt. But so it Pitt. They both have great medical schools. Let's just acknowledge that. To each his own. |
Anonymous
Can you elaborate on this? |
Anonymous
Poster above, you have reactivated a 2 year old thread. Here is info from a live Pitt webpage. https://www.physicsandastronomy.pitt.edu/undergraduate-courses/enrollment-options#:~:text=Undergraduate%20and%20Graduate%20students%20are,register%20for%20a%20CMU%20course. |
Anonymous
Off topic, but what job does your UMD criminology major hold? My DC is interested, but not sure about job prospects with just an undergrad degree. |
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Anonymous
dp..I went to school in CA where I'm originally from. UMD campus itself is quite nice, except for all that construction, which could be a turn off. The surrounding area, however, isn't that great. North of UMD isn't that nice, but south of UMD is better. That's where the social scene is. UMD is better academically; it actually has a campus. Pitt location is better. I quite like Pittsburgh, but the oos price tag + not at as great academically would make me choose UMD. If the academic reputation was similar, I'd go with Pitt, but college, first and foremost, should be about your academics and career outcome. Only people who have family wealth don't have to worry about career outcome or cost. |
Anonymous
dp.. It's certainly not the premier destination for the cream of the crop, however, there are actually a lot of top students there from MoCo. These are the kids who get shut out of the T10 and end up at UMD. I know a few like this. Super high stats from magnet programs. |
Anonymous
dp.. but does that include CS classes? I would doubt that considering how hard it is to get into CMU for CS. |
Anonymous
All the Pittsburgh colleges have an agreement with each other about cross enrollment. One class total per semester. I imagine cross registration is not available until after regular registration is over. I know I’d be irritated if my Pitt student couldn’t get into History of Jazz because some CMU student grabbed the spot first, and I doubt that how it would work. |
Anonymous
Inside the Beltway is somewhat meaningless to a college student out at UMD. At Pitt everything is right there. You can walk to world class museums, botanic gardens, concerts, theaters, great restaurants, etc. etc., hop on a bus to sporting events, and so on. |
Anonymous
? it's pretty easy to get into DC or inside the beltway from UMD, especially after the purple line expansion. My DC at UMD goes into DC all the time using the metro. |
Anonymous
I don't know about Pitt, but CMU has a policy that if the class is available at CMU, you cannot cross register that class at another institution, unless there is a legitimate reason, like the class is full. That's good, actually. At least students can take the class if at CMU it's full. https://www.cmu.edu/policies/student-and-student-life/cross-college-university-registration.html |
Anonymous
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UMD is so hard to get into as an in-state resident. It's sad for the caliber. It's a really good school but not UVA.
Many kids go to Pitt because they want to go away. It's just far enough. Nice city, nice programs but more money but not a lot more that parents in DCUM can't afford. It's a nice school for many reasons. |
Anonymous
| +1. Yes Pitt is really nice! |