How many friends or family of yours have left the DC area recently due to the rising cost of living?

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Anonymous wrote:None. The other option is go back to their home state and make $40k a year lol. Not many people choosing that option.

. More house for lesser money?

Housing is a big chunk of what people spend, but there are also issues with quality of schools, health care, and social life. If all you want after work is to sit in a big house, you can move to suburban Ohio.

I happen to be from suburban Ohio and we just took our two kids there to visit family. We had a yard to play in, didn't sit in traffic to go anywhere, went to museums, etc. Plus there are lots of great public schools in the Cleveland area and cost of housing there is infinitely more affordable (in those good school districts) than it is in this area in general in mediocre districts. There is incredible diversity of religion and culture in some parts of Cleveland due to the universities and immigration patterns etc. I would move back in a second. The only reason its not on the table right now is DH is in the midst of working on an advanced degree in this area.

The food scene and bar scene wouldn't compare to a city like DC at all, but on a day to day basis, as parents, Cleveland would be a much more desirable place to live.

How's the Cleveland job market?

The food scene in Cleveland is actually far superior to the food scene in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe people should move to NYC where a decent two bedroom will crack $1M easily before they whine so much about how expensive DC is. Or go to SF where the median rent for a one bed is $3500/month. DC is pretty affordable as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah lets compare to the top 2% of the rest of the country

Do yall realize how absolutely moronic all of you are

It's not at all mornonic. Most people who live IN dc (not the burbs) don't want to live in Kansas City. Not to mention NY and SF also have robust job markets.

DC is a toilet compared to NYC or SF. It's a far lower tier city. Most people who live in NYC or SF don't want to live in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:There is one thing I don't understand about moving to a lower COL city. If you move to a "lower" COL city, aren't you still paying same/more for cars, plane tickets, gas, groceries, taxes, refrigerators, movies, clothes? Does the cheap real estate prices offset all that even with a lower salary?

I have lived in Akron, Cleveland, Chicago, Princeton, NW DC and Arlington as an adult. All lower col than DC/Arlington - Akron and Cleveland by a lot. Plane tickets are a bit more expensive and less convenient when you live near a smaller airport. Houses and property taxes are lower, but even in "good" districts you might consider private school. I grew up in Ohio and my mom was a teacher there. Now that I have some exposure to Arlington, Falls Church, Ffx county schools, I'm not sure I could send my kids to public school back home.

Fruits and vegetables cost more in the Midwest. Gym memberships and classes are cheaper, but pedicures and haircuts cost more. Clothes and stuff costs the same everywhere thanks to the internet, but in the D.C. Area you might spend more because you are exposed to more high end brands. For example, Cleveland and D.C. Area both have Kohls and Nordstrom. At home my peers (40ish moms) shop at Kohls. In the DC area I shop at Nordstrom. So a lot of your col depends on your peers and whether you care what your friends have. If you go to a Midwest city and surround yourself with coastal transplants and match their clothes, stuff and vacations you really only save on the house.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe people should move to NYC where a decent two bedroom will crack $1M easily before they whine so much about how expensive DC is. Or go to SF where the median rent for a one bed is $3500/month. DC is pretty affordable as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah lets compare to the top 2% of the rest of the country

Do yall realize how absolutely moronic all of you are

It's not at all mornonic. Most people who live IN dc (not the burbs) don't want to live in Kansas City. Not to mention NY and SF also have robust job markets.

DC is a toilet compared to NYC or SF. It's a far lower tier city. Most people who live in NYC or SF don't want to live in DC.

Unless you make 1 million a year , NYC is the toilets toilet

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe people should move to NYC where a decent two bedroom will crack $1M easily before they whine so much about how expensive DC is. Or go to SF where the median rent for a one bed is $3500/month. DC is pretty affordable as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah lets compare to the top 2% of the rest of the country

Do yall realize how absolutely moronic all of you are

It's not at all mornonic. Most people who live IN dc (not the burbs) don't want to live in Kansas City. Not to mention NY and SF also have robust job markets.

DC is a toilet compared to NYC or SF. It's a far lower tier city. Most people who live in NYC or SF don't want to live in DC.

Unless you make 1 million a year , NYC is the toilets toilet

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:There is one thing I don't understand about moving to a lower COL city. If you move to a "lower" COL city, aren't you still paying same/more for cars, plane tickets, gas, groceries, taxes, refrigerators, movies, clothes? Does the cheap real estate prices offset all that even with a lower salary?

I have lived in Akron, Cleveland, Chicago, Princeton, NW DC and Arlington as an adult. All lower col than DC/Arlington - Akron and Cleveland by a lot. Plane tickets are a bit more expensive and less convenient when you live near a smaller airport. Houses and property taxes are lower, but even in "good" districts you might consider private school. I grew up in Ohio and my mom was a teacher there. Now that I have some exposure to Arlington, Falls Church, Ffx county schools, I'm not sure I could send my kids to public school back home.

Fruits and vegetables cost more in the Midwest. Gym memberships and classes are cheaper, but pedicures and haircuts cost more. Clothes and stuff costs the same everywhere thanks to the internet, but in the D.C. Area you might spend more because you are exposed to more high end brands. For example, Cleveland and D.C. Area both have Kohls and Nordstrom. At home my peers (40ish moms) shop at Kohls. In the DC area I shop at Nordstrom. So a lot of your col depends on your peers and whether you care what your friends have. If you go to a Midwest city and surround yourself with coastal transplants and match their clothes, stuff and vacations you really only save on the house.

Fruits and vegetables cost more in the Midwest? Huh????

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Anonymous wrote:There is one thing I don't understand about moving to a lower COL city. If you move to a "lower" COL city, aren't you still paying same/more for cars, plane tickets, gas, groceries, taxes, refrigerators, movies, clothes? Does the cheap real estate prices offset all that even with a lower salary?

I have lived in Akron, Cleveland, Chicago, Princeton, NW DC and Arlington as an adult. All lower col than DC/Arlington - Akron and Cleveland by a lot. Plane tickets are a bit more expensive and less convenient when you live near a smaller airport. Houses and property taxes are lower, but even in "good" districts you might consider private school. I grew up in Ohio and my mom was a teacher there. Now that I have some exposure to Arlington, Falls Church, Ffx county schools, I'm not sure I could send my kids to public school back home.

Fruits and vegetables cost more in the Midwest. Gym memberships and classes are cheaper, but pedicures and haircuts cost more. Clothes and stuff costs the same everywhere thanks to the internet, but in the D.C. Area you might spend more because you are exposed to more high end brands. For example, Cleveland and D.C. Area both have Kohls and Nordstrom. At home my peers (40ish moms) shop at Kohls. In the DC area I shop at Nordstrom. So a lot of your col depends on your peers and whether you care what your friends have. If you go to a Midwest city and surround yourself with coastal transplants and match their clothes, stuff and vacations you really only save on the house.

But that's the thing. Most people aren't going to move and drastically change their tastes and desires. Most people aren't going to dress well and shop at nicer stores and overnight be okay shopping at kohls. Besides the fact that you don't need to relocate to shop at kohls. If you won't shop at a store like kohls now I don't see why you're going to be okay doing so when you move. I firmly believe that your problems follow you and moving to a lower COL city isn't a panacea. You're simply trading one set of problems for another.

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Anonymous wrote:There is one thing I don't understand about moving to a lower COL city. If you move to a "lower" COL city, aren't you still paying same/more for cars, plane tickets, gas, groceries, taxes, refrigerators, movies, clothes? Does the cheap real estate prices offset all that even with a lower salary?

I have lived in Akron, Cleveland, Chicago, Princeton, NW DC and Arlington as an adult. All lower col than DC/Arlington - Akron and Cleveland by a lot. Plane tickets are a bit more expensive and less convenient when you live near a smaller airport. Houses and property taxes are lower, but even in "good" districts you might consider private school. I grew up in Ohio and my mom was a teacher there. Now that I have some exposure to Arlington, Falls Church, Ffx county schools, I'm not sure I could send my kids to public school back home.

Fruits and vegetables cost more in the Midwest. Gym memberships and classes are cheaper, but pedicures and haircuts cost more. Clothes and stuff costs the same everywhere thanks to the internet, but in the D.C. Area you might spend more because you are exposed to more high end brands. For example, Cleveland and D.C. Area both have Kohls and Nordstrom. At home my peers (40ish moms) shop at Kohls. In the DC area I shop at Nordstrom. So a lot of your col depends on your peers and whether you care what your friends have. If you go to a Midwest city and surround yourself with coastal transplants and match their clothes, stuff and vacations you really only save on the house.

But that's the thing. Most people aren't going to move and drastically change their tastes and desires. Most people aren't going to dress well and shop at nicer stores and overnight be okay shopping at kohls. Besides the fact that you don't need to relocate to shop at kohls. If you won't shop at a store like kohls now I don't see why you're going to be okay doing so when you move. I firmly believe that your problems follow you and moving to a lower COL city isn't a panacea. You're simply trading one set of problems for another.

A bit of commonsense finally

Still the major expense for most folks are housing followed closely by daycare

Moving you can cut those things in half easily (and for you idiots as long as you aren't dumb enough to compare to NYC of SF)

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Does no one take a pay cut when they move to these backwoods bastions of barbarity? Part of the reason DC is somewhat expensive is the prevalence of high paying jobs for well educated people. I could make a similar amount in NYC/SF but have a much, much higher COL, or I'd have to take a massive paycut to go live in Akron which would probably eliminate the cost savings. Plus, who knows what kind of primitive laws they have in Akron (do they even have laws?).

Personally, I'd be willing to pay $3k/month off the top of my salary to not live in most of these midwestern places.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe people should move to NYC where a decent two bedroom will crack $1M easily before they whine so much about how expensive DC is. Or go to SF where the median rent for a one bed is $3500/month. DC is pretty affordable as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah lets compare to the top 2% of the rest of the country

Do yall realize how absolutely moronic all of you are

It's not at all mornonic. Most people who live IN dc (not the burbs) don't want to live in Kansas City. Not to mention NY and SF also have robust job markets.

DC is a toilet compared to NYC or SF. It's a far lower tier city. Most people who live in NYC or SF don't want to live in DC.

Unless you make 1 million a year , NYC is the toilets toilet

LOL. That's the same level of nonsense as saying unless you make 500k a year it's not worth living in DC. The median HHI in DC is 75k. The NYC median is roughly 53k. But it's fun to believe that life just isn't worth living unless you're bringing home 6 figures. The corporations thank you for your brainwashing.

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Anonymous wrote:Does no one take a pay cut when they move to these backwoods bastions of barbarity? Part of the reason DC is somewhat expensive is the prevalence of high paying jobs for well educated people. I could make a similar amount in NYC/SF but have a much, much higher COL, or I'd have to take a massive paycut to go live in Akron which would probably eliminate the cost savings. Plus, who knows what kind of primitive laws they have in Akron (do they even have laws?).

Personally, I'd be willing to pay $3k/month off the top of my salary to not live in most of these midwestern places.

Stupidity like this is why Trump is your president.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe people should move to NYC where a decent two bedroom will crack $1M easily before they whine so much about how expensive DC is. Or go to SF where the median rent for a one bed is $3500/month. DC is pretty affordable as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah lets compare to the top 2% of the rest of the country

Do yall realize how absolutely moronic all of you are

It's not at all mornonic. Most people who live IN dc (not the burbs) don't want to live in Kansas City. Not to mention NY and SF also have robust job markets.

DC is a toilet compared to NYC or SF. It's a far lower tier city. Most people who live in NYC or SF don't want to live in DC.

Unless you make 1 million a year , NYC is the toilets toilet

LOL. That's the same level of nonsense as saying unless you make 500k a year it's not worth living in DC. The median HHI in DC is 75k. The NYC median is roughly 53k. But it's fun to believe that life just isn't worth living unless you're bringing home 6 figures. The corporations thank you for your brainwashing.

Right well I'd assume the people posting make way way more than 75k and are accustomed to a certain lifestyle. We make close to 500k and no, I'm not moving to NY with less than 1 million hhi. I'd require a nice apartment, garaged car, good schools (meaning private in Manhattan) and a summer rental.

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Anonymous wrote:Does no one take a pay cut when they move to these backwoods bastions of barbarity? Part of the reason DC is somewhat expensive is the prevalence of high paying jobs for well educated people. I could make a similar amount in NYC/SF but have a much, much higher COL, or I'd have to take a massive paycut to go live in Akron which would probably eliminate the cost savings. Plus, who knows what kind of primitive laws they have in Akron (do they even have laws?).

Personally, I'd be willing to pay $3k/month off the top of my salary to not live in most of these midwestern places.

Stupidity like this is why Trump is your president.

Nope. When people who look like me randomly get shot in bars in these places it's not stupidity. Putting up with the stupidity of white midwesterners is a luxury only other white people have.

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Anonymous wrote:Does no one take a pay cut when they move to these backwoods bastions of barbarity? Part of the reason DC is somewhat expensive is the prevalence of high paying jobs for well educated people. I could make a similar amount in NYC/SF but have a much, much higher COL, or I'd have to take a massive paycut to go live in Akron which would probably eliminate the cost savings. Plus, who knows what kind of primitive laws they have in Akron (do they even have laws?).

Personally, I'd be willing to pay $3k/month off the top of my salary to not live in most of these midwestern places.

Stupidity like this is why Trump is your president.

Nope. When people who look like me randomly get shot in bars in these places it's not stupidity. Putting up with the stupidity of white midwesterners is a luxury only other white people have.

I'm a visible minority, as are my kids. We live in the Midwest. Don't let fear control you; there's never been a better time in American history to be a minority in this country.

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Anonymous wrote:Does no one take a pay cut when they move to these backwoods bastions of barbarity? Part of the reason DC is somewhat expensive is the prevalence of high paying jobs for well educated people. I could make a similar amount in NYC/SF but have a much, much higher COL, or I'd have to take a massive paycut to go live in Akron which would probably eliminate the cost savings. Plus, who knows what kind of primitive laws they have in Akron (do they even have laws?).

Personally, I'd be willing to pay $3k/month off the top of my salary to not live in most of these midwestern places.

Stupidity like this is why Trump is your president.

Nope. When people who look like me randomly get shot in bars in these places it's not stupidity. Putting up with the stupidity of white midwesterners is a luxury only other white people have.

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