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This is why cyclists are douches and they will just never admit to this. Yes, we have to "share the road". The reality is roads are built and designed for cars not bicycles. To be a cyclist and bitch about cars on the road is like moving to the country and complaining about the wildlife. It was there first.
Bicycles and cars are incompatible and for cyclists to claim any moral high ground is forgetting who and what the road is really built for in the first place. |
I avoid narrow country roads, I have heard too many horror stories about cyclists being hit by douchebag drivers out there. |
Every department of transportation in this region insists that roads are for both cars, trucks, buses, and bikes (limited access highways apart). That is the law, and that is the political reality of transportation in this region. And no one I know bitches that cars are on the road (indeed, 90% of cyclists also drive). We only bitch when they do dangerous things. BTW, just so you know, bicycles existed before internal combustion engines, and paving of roads was initially done at the instigation of cyclists. You, however, appear to be a douche. |
The drivers are not douchey, the country road is a poor choice for cyclists. Visibility can be poor and very few bailout options for either driver or cyclist. But my guess is you have rarely ever driven on country roads. |
I have driven on plenty of country roads. I have experienced douchy drivers that way, who tailgate you when you drive the speed limit, who drive too fast for the conditions, etc. And the incidents I have seen written up were the drivers' fault. Do you need me to google them? |
And yet they aren't designed for bikes at all. Go figure. So yes, the road is insisted to be shared but stop acting like cyclists can do no wrong. In this thread alone we have cyclists admitting to breaking the rule of the road for no other reason than "local custom". WTF is that? Arrogance and douch-baggery, that is what it is. Blow through a four way stop and get pasted for all care. Split the lane in the city and get swiped by a car changing lanes for all I care, but you own the behavior that put your ass in traction. It doesn't matter if you are right when the other thing is 4000lbs. I hope your attitude is of comfort to your family and their lawsuit when you are dead or crippled because you ride based on "local custom". I hope you kiss your family goodbye every time your righteous ass goes riding. Idiot. |
I don't need you to do anything but keep your bike off narrow country roads for your own safety. Again, it isn't about who is the jerk, it is about picking a safe route to ride. I tend to look both ways when crossing the street in DC too, certainly not because I have to. I have the right of way after all. Everyone must stop for me, but can they and will they is what you must ask yourself. |
I don't care, the consequence of choosing a poor road. Choose wrong and the danger goes up exponentially. But I'm sure they were right, but they are still just as dead. Perhaps that should go on their tombstone, "I had the right to the full lane" |
Actually many roads are being rebuilt with bike lanes, etc, but that is not possible for every road. I do not see though what how a paved road is not designed for bikes. Try riding on one, you will find that the road is perfectly rideable. What is is not designed for is for you to go cruising along at 60MPH without ever having to slow down and wait for a safe place to pass a cyclist. Its not that they are not built for sharing, its that your idea of sharing involves zero inconvenience to you. As for idahoing stops, as practiced by many cyclists it is a safe and useful behavior (if we stopped doing it, it would slow down city drivers much more). Its not arrogance, its logically determining what to do on a road balancing many factors. It is technically illegal in this region (for now - there is a proposal to change the law in DC) but so is driving even 1 MPH over the speed limit. And believe me, cyclists are strongly concerned with self preservation - few do things likely to get themselves killed, which is why so many ride so much with so few fatalities. Odd how you keep going back and forth between actual dangerous cyclists behavior (lane splitting between moving lanes of traffic for example) and your belief that bikes do not belong on the road. If you were concerned about safety you would want cyclists to ride, but more safely. It appears that you just want them out of your way, and use the usualy rhetoric about being hit to scare them away. Fact is your big vehicle will not protect you from cardio vascular disease. Biking adds to life expectancy. |
These folks lived in those places. They did not have a better road to ride on. And none of the roads made accidents inevitable, the drivers did. But you don't care. Because you are a douche. Well I don't care what you think when your state raises its gas tax, or installs speed cameras, or increases fines for reckless driving. |
But people who live there have no other roads to ride on. You can bet I choose where to ride based on my safety - but you had better not drive like a douche, or you may just find that killing a cyclist has consequences for YOUR life. And of course this is why when someone does have to ride on a country road, they need to ride in the center of the lane, to discourage unsafe douchey in lane passing. Also why they should ride with helmet cams, and in groups. |
Maybe we should stop funding repairs to narrow country roads that are not available to be shared by all. |
They are allowed on the road however that does not mean that they should be on the road, or every road. Two different things. Pick better, safer routes. I don't do anything to scare them away. I just drive, but if either of us make a mistake I was my car and move on. I'm a road runner and believe me, I can't afford to be righteous or arrogant. I pick my routes and time of day accordingly. The question of the thread asked "Why do you hog the road even with a large shoulder?" And the only real answer anyone has given is nothing more than "because I can". Where is the safety in that? |
Or, we should tax road bikes and have them registered like any other vehicle on the road. Their tax and registration fee can fund the construction of bike lanes. |