Which jklmm?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JKLM ... M?!

Murch is not in this league, but maybe in 5 years or so.

Murch has been a top 5 DCPS school since the 1970s, when I attended. The neighborhood where the kids come from (Forest Hills, Wakefield, a little bit of Chevy Chase) has not changed in that time. You are welcome.

No offense, but there's a divide between the others and Murch. (Murch is still a fine school, I'm sure, but it's not the same as the others.) For the record, I think Stoddert is ahead of Murch (and Lafayette), behind some ordering of Janney, Key and Mann.

And exactly what are the qualifications that allow you to make this confident assessment? Please...

[Anonymous]

What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch? With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

[Anonymous]

What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch. With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

Agreed, this is the strangest "excuse" for deciding on an "elite" private I have ever heard. It might be a joke, but it is funny either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch. With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

While Murch boosters can perhaps be foregiven for their myopia, it's hard objectively to conclude that Murch has always been part of the JKLM group and that it is comparable to and interchangeable with Mann. That's like saying that the 'H' in HPY can equally stand for Harvard or Hooterville.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch. With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

While Murch boosters can perhaps be foregiven for their myopia, it's hard objectively to conclude that Murch has always been part of the JKLM group and that it is comparable to and interchangeable with Mann. That's like saying that the 'H' in HPY can equally stand for Harvard or Hooterville.

People are so weirdly competitive on this board, I guess to justify some decision they have made?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch. With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

While Murch boosters can perhaps be foregiven for their myopia, it's hard objectively to conclude that Murch has always been part of the JKLM group and that it is comparable to and interchangeable with Mann. That's like saying that the 'H' in HPY can equally stand for Harvard or Hooterville.

People are so weirdly competitive on this board, I guess to justify some decision they have made?

I actually find if quite humorous to see people arguing over things like this. Like a few percentage points difference in standardize tests make such a difference in school quality that it's worth having endless discussions about it. It really makes me so happy that I don't to go a JKLM and have to deal with people like this IRL. (Also, I have never even seen the acronym HPY in use so clearly I'm in a different world than these people).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is all the sudden dumping on Murch? It has always been part of the JKLM acronym - with the M referring to Mann or Murch. With a child there now in pre-K, it is better than our old private preschool - with the same class size and teacher/child ratio as Sidwell. It would not surprise me if test scores are somewhat lower based, from what I can see, primarily on the comparatively high number of diplomats' kids with varying English language skills.

While Murch boosters can perhaps be foregiven for their myopia, it's hard objectively to conclude that Murch has always been part of the JKLM group and that it is comparable to and interchangeable with Mann. That's like saying that the 'H' in HPY can equally stand for Harvard or Hooterville.

As a Hooterville alum I am greatly offended.

[Anonymous]

All you fuckers are wrong. Anacostia 4 life bitches!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

While we wouldn't opt for private school, I don't disagree with this poster. The upper NW DC folks are, to a large degree, insufferable and come across as what can only be described as modestly elite. Its laughable. I contend the boundary issue showed the true colors of my neighbors, hiding behind the DC liberal commitment to public education but attacking like a rabid wolf at any attempt to level the playing field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

While we wouldn't opt for private school, I don't disagree with this poster. The upper NW DC folks are, to a large degree, insufferable and come across as what can only be described as modestly elite. Its laughable. I contend the boundary issue showed the true colors of my neighbors, hiding behind the DC liberal commitment to public education but attacking like a rabid wolf at any attempt to level the playing field.

I completely agree. The boundary issue stopped the crazy Chevy Chase anti-street light lady to now switch gears to rallying behind the EotP middle school so her precious snowflakes won't have to associate with poor minority kids from EotP. The whole school boundary debate made me hate NWDC folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

While we wouldn't opt for private school, I don't disagree with this poster. The upper NW DC folks are, to a large degree, insufferable and come across as what can only be described as modestly elite. Its laughable. I contend the boundary issue showed the true colors of my neighbors, hiding behind the DC liberal commitment to public education but attacking like a rabid wolf at any attempt to level the playing field.

If "level the playng field" is code for taking a long settled expecation of attending a good school and simply redistributing it to someone else, then I can see why people oppose it. The emphasis should be, as David Catania argued, in improving the underperforming schools to bring them up to the level of the best, rather than forcing people to attend a poorer performing school than what they previously had a right to attend. This is why some folks who had until now been in-bounds for Deal, the city's best middle school, are upset to be shunted to Hardy, a mediocre distant second-tier school. It's also the case that people pay a "Janney premium" (i.e., an inflated price based on a local school) to be in a great elementary disrict, and moving boundaries interferes with settled expectations that have driven decisions on where to buy.

PS- I love those who say they are so turned off by the "rabid wolfs" in Upper NW, yet will claw and clamor to send their kids to school with Upper NW kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ this posting went from interesting to slightly funny to absolutely depressing. Demeaning tiny elementary kids who go to fine schools is deplorable. It seems like the parents are really the bullies. How do you discipline your kids when they berate others?

DCPS is one of the lower performing districts in the country. There is plenty of work that needs to be done to improve the schools. The ones that are being discussed are highly desirable within this system.

We always wanted to sent our child to public school for the early years because of the exposure to different kinds of people who share our values that a quality education should be available to all. What I am seeing here is unchecked privilege and a sense of entitlement that is sickening and shouldn't be tolerated in any school system, let alone a public system.

We are seriously thinking of an elite private because the values of humility, citizenship, and commitment to diversity may be much stronger than anything I am seeing on these boards.

OMG, now I am really laughing. Good luck finding that humility at your elite private.

At the risk of having this thread veer off into another direction, I want to respond to the reference to the "crazy Chevy Chase anti-street light lady." People light street lights, but a number of DC residents were upset when DDOT began replacing street lights with exremely bright orange high-intensity bulbs that made residential blocks start to look like high security prison yards and forced folks to invest in new window treatements just to be able to sleep at night. People want lighting for safety, but don't feel the need to have such brightness to read a novel in the middle of the street at midnight. Also, DDOT had made a commitment to install more historically compatitble lighting in historic districts, but often throws up whatever they seem to have on the truck. I applaud people who care about the character and appearance of their neighborhoods -- that's how desirable neighborhoods are created and sustained.

While we wouldn't opt for private school, I don't disagree with this poster. The upper NW DC folks are, to a large degree, insufferable and come across as what can only be described as modestly elite. Its laughable. I contend the boundary issue showed the true colors of my neighbors, hiding behind the DC liberal commitment to public education but attacking like a rabid wolf at any attempt to level the playing field.

I completely agree. The boundary issue stopped the crazy Chevy Chase anti-street light lady to now switch gears to rallying behind the EotP middle school so her precious snowflakes won't have to associate with poor minority kids from EotP. The whole school boundary debate made me hate NWDC folks.

[Anonymous]

At the risk of having this thread veer off into another direction, I want to respond to the reference to the "crazy Chevy Chase anti-street light lady." People want street lights, but a number of DC residents were upset when DDOT began replacing street lights with exremely bright orange high-intensity bulbs that made residential blocks start to look like high security prison yards and forced folks to invest in new window treatements just to be able to sleep at night. People want lighting for safety, but don't feel the need to have such brightness to read a novel in the middle of the street at midnight. It was also strange that DDOT wanted to drastically increase brightness when other localities were becoming more sensitive to night-time light pollution and were trying to reduce glare and adjust brightness. Also, DDOT had made a commitment to install more historically compatitble lighting in historic districts, but often throws up whatever they seem to have on the truck. I applaud people who care about the character and appearance of their neighborhoods -- that's how desirable neighborhoods are created and sustained.