Yay - my husband finally left the Catholic Church!

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Anonymous wrote:You people are aware that catholics and protestants believe in the same thing, right...? The differences are minimal and for a catholic and protestant to go to church and live together is not a big deal. Why did you make him leave his church...wow you're a bad wife. I feel sorry for him.

I am OP. My husband was not going to church, because he refused to live his life in the narrow way being a true Catholic called for. He just didn't want to be a hypocrite. So I wouldn't feel so sorry for him. I found a new church and started going, and once he met some of the people and started attending, he was hooked.

There are vast differences between the Catholic Church and the one we go to now. The one we go to has a woman in the pulpit, and gay families in the pews who are not just tolerated, but welcomed. Their marriages are considered equal to everyone else's marriage. We know what every dime of our money goes to, another big plus.

Actually OP he was just being an 18 year old. Most kids stop going to church, regardless of denomination, around that age. You are off to college, being young, going out, finding yourself.

You need to realize he just fell away because of age and it sounds like you did too.

Yes, he fell away because of age. He STAYED AWAY because of their beliefs, dogma and practices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people are aware that catholics and protestants believe in the same thing, right...? The differences are minimal and for a catholic and protestant to go to church and live together is not a big deal. Why did you make him leave his church...wow you're a bad wife. I feel sorry for him.

I am OP. My husband was not going to church, because he refused to live his life in the narrow way being a true Catholic called for. He just didn't want to be a hypocrite. So I wouldn't feel so sorry for him. I found a new church and started going, and once he met some of the people and started attending, he was hooked.

There are vast differences between the Catholic Church and the one we go to now. The one we go to has a woman in the pulpit, and gay families in the pews who are not just tolerated, but welcomed. Their marriages are considered equal to everyone else's marriage. We know what every dime of our money goes to, another big plus.

Actually OP he was just being an 18 year old. Most kids stop going to church, regardless of denomination, around that age. You are off to college, being young, going out, finding yourself.

You need to realize he just fell away because of age and it sounds like you did too.

Yes, he fell away because of age. He STAYED AWAY because of their beliefs, dogma and practices.

+1

Of course, some people do come back as they get older, but it's often for the tradition, not the beliefs -- that's where the "cafeteria" branch of Catholicism comes in.

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Henry VIII was about begatting a legitimate male heir. He cared little about theology.

So......what does that say about the episcopal church?

That like all other religions, it's shaped by human history.

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not pp you are responding to. Yes, there are 101 differences in thought. That is why there are literally thousands of sects within protestantism alone.

But at the core we are Christians, no? As so we are to believe that God is the father who sent his son to die for us. We are to believe that we are all children of God and should care for one another.

I think we should focus on the similarities and get some of that right, first, before we decide to tear one another down based on uncommon ground.

So the common theme of the many Christian denominations is worshipping a God who sent his son to earth for the express purpose of having him murdered because he apparently couldn't think of another way to forgive our sins.

As Christians we believe Jesus died for our salvation.

Sent to earth at the order of his Father for that express purpose.

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not pp you are responding to. Yes, there are 101 differences in thought. That is why there are literally thousands of sects within protestantism alone.

But at the core we are Christians, no? As so we are to believe that God is the father who sent his son to die for us. We are to believe that we are all children of God and should care for one another.

I think we should focus on the similarities and get some of that right, first, before we decide to tear one another down based on uncommon ground.

So the common theme of the many Christian denominations is worshipping a God who sent his son to earth for the express purpose of having him murdered because he apparently couldn't think of another way to forgive our sins.

As Christians we believe Jesus died for our salvation.

Sent to earth at the order of his Father for that express purpose.

He came to earth as man for the express purpose of dying, yes.

[Anonymous]

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not pp you are responding to. Yes, there are 101 differences in thought. That is why there are literally thousands of sects within protestantism alone.

But at the core we are Christians, no? As so we are to believe that God is the father who sent his son to die for us. We are to believe that we are all children of God and should care for one another.

I think we should focus on the similarities and get some of that right, first, before we decide to tear one another down based on uncommon ground.

So the common theme of the many Christian denominations is worshipping a God who sent his son to earth for the express purpose of having him murdered because he apparently couldn't think of another way to forgive our sins.

As Christians we believe Jesus died for our salvation.

Sent to earth at the order of his Father for that express purpose.

He came to earth as man for the express purpose of dying, yes.

^well, actually, he taught also while He was here. But He was always supposed to die for us.

[Anonymous]

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not pp you are responding to. Yes, there are 101 differences in thought. That is why there are literally thousands of sects within protestantism alone.

But at the core we are Christians, no? As so we are to believe that God is the father who sent his son to die for us. We are to believe that we are all children of God and should care for one another.

I think we should focus on the similarities and get some of that right, first, before we decide to tear one another down based on uncommon ground.

So the common theme of the many Christian denominations is worshipping a God who sent his son to earth for the express purpose of having him murdered because he apparently couldn't think of another way to forgive our sins.

As Christians we believe Jesus died for our salvation.

Sent to earth at the order of his Father for that express purpose.

He came to earth as man for the express purpose of dying, yes.

He didn't just come -- his father sent him. That's a huge part of Christianity.

[Anonymous]

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Henry VIII was about begatting a legitimate male heir. He cared little about theology.

So......what does that say about the episcopal church?

That like all other religions, it's shaped by human history.

Henry was motivated by self-interest, that's pretty clear. But Henry rode a huge wave of theological innovation that was happening at the same time. Or, just read Dante or The Decameron to see what even good Catholics thought of popes at that time. The Catholic Church underwent a Reformation in response.

Just because it took a self-interested ruler to make it happened, doesn't illegitimize (pun intended) the theological changes that were being advocated by many other serious thinkers at the time.

[Anonymous]

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Henry VIII was about begatting a legitimate male heir. He cared little about theology.

So......what does that say about the episcopal church?

That like all other religions, it's shaped by human history.

Henry was motivated by self-interest, that's pretty clear. But Henry rode a huge wave of theological innovation that was happening at the same time. Or, just read Dante or The Decameron to see what even good Catholics thought of popes at that time. The Catholic Church underwent a Reformation in response.

Just because it took a self-interested ruler to make it happened, doesn't illegitimize (pun intended) the theological changes that were being advocated by many other serious thinkers at the time.

No question reform was both needed and welcome. But the PP cited Henry as an example. Before Henry wanted an annulment, he was a staunch defender of the Catholic faith against the Reformation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people are aware that catholics and protestants believe in the same thing, right...? The differences are minimal and for a catholic and protestant to go to church and live together is not a big deal. Why did you make him leave his church...wow you're a bad wife. I feel sorry for him.

No, I don't believe in worshipping or praying to Mary (created 300 A.D.)
No, I don't believe in confession
No, I don't believe in transubstantian
No, I don't believe church is all about Mass. It's about worship and listening to a great sermon about how to improve myself as a person.
No, I believe in the bible and think it should be read and studied
No, I don't believe in men wearing skirts for a living (500 A.D.) controlling my life.
No, I don't believe the Pope runs my life
No, I don't believe in worshipping or venerating Saints, either
No, I don't believe in purgatory
No, I don't believe in Limbo
No, I don't believe in purchasing of Masses here to "move up" someone has died in Purgatory
No, I don't believe in celibacy of priests and nuns (another creation of the Catholic Church)
No, I don't believe in the guilt trip.
No, I believe in a New Testament God is who loving and accepting of all who are good people.

What do you think King Henry VIII, Elizabeth, Bloody Mary, the Puritans, and Martin Luther were all about?

not pp you are responding to. Yes, there are 101 differences in thought. That is why there are literally thousands of sects within protestantism alone.

But at the core we are Christians, no? As so we are to believe that God is the father who sent his son to die for us. We are to believe that we are all children of God and should care for one another.

I think we should focus on the similarities and get some of that right, first, before we decide to tear one another down based on uncommon ground.

NO, many Catholics are not Christians. MIL is one. Mean and petty and two-faced to everyone. To be a Christian you have to push aside all the Catholic rules, regs, prostrations and ask "Do I really take Jesus in my heart as my saviour and do I commit to lean a god-centered life, and to try to let him work through my life". Most Catholics don't do that. They think if they go to Mass, they can raise hell during the week and it doen't count because they can get absolved at the Confessional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous



Henry VIII was about begatting a legitimate male heir. He cared little about theology.

So......what does that say about the episcopal church?

That like all other religions, it's shaped by human history.

Henry was motivated by self-interest, that's pretty clear. But Henry rode a huge wave of theological innovation that was happening at the same time. Or, just read Dante or The Decameron to see what even good Catholics thought of popes at that time. The Catholic Church underwent a Reformation in response.

Just because it took a self-interested ruler to make it happened, doesn't illegitimize (pun intended) the theological changes that were being advocated by many other serious thinkers at the time.

No question reform was both needed and welcome. But the PP cited Henry as an example. Before Henry wanted an annulment, he was a staunch defender of the Catholic faith against the Reformation.

Yes, we agree that Henry himself was motivated by self interest. You've missed point, which is that a lot of other serious and thoughtful people at the time thought this was the right thing to do for theological reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people are aware that catholics and protestants believe in the same thing, right...? The differences are minimal and for a catholic and protestant to go to church and live together is not a big deal. Why did you make him leave his church...wow you're a bad wife. I feel sorry for him.

I am OP. My husband was not going to church, because he refused to live his life in the narrow way being a true Catholic called for. He just didn't want to be a hypocrite. So I wouldn't feel so sorry for him. I found a new church and started going, and once he met some of the people and started attending, he was hooked.

There are vast differences between the Catholic Church and the one we go to now. The one we go to has a woman in the pulpit, and gay families in the pews who are not just tolerated, but welcomed. Their marriages are considered equal to everyone else's marriage. We know what every dime of our money goes to, another big plus.

Actually OP he was just being an 18 year old. Most kids stop going to church, regardless of denomination, around that age. You are off to college, being young, going out, finding yourself.

You need to realize he just fell away because of age and it sounds like you did too.

Yes, he fell away because of age. He STAYED AWAY because of their beliefs, dogma and practices.

+1

Of course, some people do come back as they get older, but it's often for the tradition, not the beliefs -- that's where the "cafeteria" branch of Catholicism comes in.

Keep telling yourself that....

[Anonymous]

This thread is hilarious...Unbelievable how every single person on earth thinks THEIR religion is the one and only religion. How THEIR religion got it all right and all other religions have some kind of flaws. You all are SO self-righteous it's simply hilarious.

You either believe in God, or you don't. You either try to be a good person to the best of your ability or you don't. And that is where it ends. Everything else is just made up rules and regulations of all kinds of different varieties of religions. Get. Over. Yourselves. People.

Unbelievable...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious...Unbelievable how every single person on earth thinks THEIR religion is the one and only religion. How THEIR religion got it all right and all other religions have some kind of flaws. You all are SO self-righteous it's simply hilarious.

You either believe in God, or you don't. You either try to be a good person to the best of your ability or you don't. And that is where it ends. Everything else is just made up rules and regulations of all kinds of different varieties of religions. Get. Over. Yourselves. People.

Unbelievable...

You're hilarious for thinking you're just so darn superior to everybody else!

I have news for you....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious...Unbelievable how every single person on earth thinks THEIR religion is the one and only religion. How THEIR religion got it all right and all other religions have some kind of flaws. You all are SO self-righteous it's simply hilarious.

You either believe in God, or you don't. You either try to be a good person to the best of your ability or you don't. And that is where it ends. Everything else is just made up rules and regulations of all kinds of different varieties of religions. Get. Over. Yourselves. People.

Unbelievable...

Ranting Atheist has entered the room! Time for all respectful, thoughtful people to leave. Unless you want to drown in a tidal wave of inanity and douchebaggery like the post above.