s/o Are these standards to hard for Kindergarten students?

[Anonymous]

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

I don't understand. Is the argument that the standards are too hard and demanding, or that they are unnecessary because they were being done already (in which case obviously they are not too hard or demanding)?

[Anonymous]

They are certainly testing Kindergartners.

http://teachersletterstobillgates.com/2014/03/21/five-hours-of-gates-led-kindergarten-common-core-map-tests-testhearingsnow/

"Because of you — despite being in tears, these innocent 5 and 6 year old children — children who used to be finger painting, learning nursery rhymes, engaging in dramatic play with miniature kitchens, role playing with costumes and puppets, and building forts with large wooden blocks — endured FIVE hours of standardized testing. FIVE hours of standardized testing of 5 and 6 year olds? Do you really think American parents and teachers are going to allow this testing abuse?

...

So is this test really that bad? Here is a demo of the MAP test for primary grades. Just imagine being 5 or 6 years old, sitting behind a screen taking this test for 5 hours, then read the details below as written by the Badass Teacher who is sending out the alarm call to stop this madness!"

The day my kindergarten took a test called the Common Core MAP



"The test is adaptive. When a child answers a question, the next batch of questions is slightly harder or easier depending on the correctness of their answer. The math and language arts sections each had 57 questions.

Kids in one class took five hours to finish. Kids were crying in 4 of 5 classes.

There were multiple computer crashes (“okay, you just sit right there while we fix it! Don’t talk to anyone!”). There were kids sitting for half hour with volume off on headsets but not saying anything. Kids accidentally swapped tangled headsets and didn’t seem to notice that what they heard had nothing to do with what they saw on the screen.

[Anonymous]

"Another district parent named Anntoinette spoke about children experiencing stress and called it a tragedy that children who had once loved school and were successful now dread going to school.

“... watched with a breaking heart how her daughter’s love of school has dwindled by the inappropriate standards placed on her at her tender age.”

“Earlier this week, a five-year-old was crying because she was frustrated with the day’s assignment of paragraph-mapping. Most of the children are struggling with learning the alphabet and they are being asked to deconstruct a paragraph….”

“My child has also been having difficulties with Common Core, starting last year. We had her crying, confused, utterly upset anytime she was given homework and I couldn’t help her with it. And I am a university graduate….”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/nov/18/ticker-chula-vista-school-admin-common-core/#ixzz2l7qBM7T8

[Anonymous]

"This is a 3rd grader at 10 o’clock on a Wednesday night literally crying over her homework. This is a child hungry for knowledge – a child who loves to learn. This is a child with a broken spirit. I didn’t have to take several pictures to capture one that happened to include a tear, because the tears were pouring down her face. This is a very smart kid in the midst of feeling like a failure."

http://www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com/common-core-harmful-to-children/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

I don't understand. Is the argument that the standards are too hard and demanding, or that they are unnecessary because they were being done already (in which case obviously they are not too hard or demanding)?

Oh, but now you're talking logic, see?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

They are certainly testing Kindergartners.

http://teachersletterstobillgates.com/2014/03/21/five-hours-of-gates-led-kindergarten-common-core-map-tests-testhearingsnow/

"Because of you — despite being in tears, these innocent 5 and 6 year old children — children who used to be finger painting, learning nursery rhymes, engaging in dramatic play with miniature kitchens, role playing with costumes and puppets, and building forts with large wooden blocks — endured FIVE hours of standardized testing. FIVE hours of standardized testing of 5 and 6 year olds? Do you really think American parents and teachers are going to allow this testing abuse?

...

So is this test really that bad? Here is a demo of the MAP test for primary grades. Just imagine being 5 or 6 years old, sitting behind a screen taking this test for 5 hours, then read the details below as written by the Badass Teacher who is sending out the alarm call to stop this madness!"

The day my kindergarten took a test called the Common Core MAP



"The test is adaptive. When a child answers a question, the next batch of questions is slightly harder or easier depending on the correctness of their answer. The math and language arts sections each had 57 questions.

Kids in one class took five hours to finish. Kids were crying in 4 of 5 classes.

There were multiple computer crashes (“okay, you just sit right there while we fix it! Don’t talk to anyone!”). There were kids sitting for half hour with volume off on headsets but not saying anything. Kids accidentally swapped tangled headsets and didn’t seem to notice that what they heard had nothing to do with what they saw on the screen.

"They" again!

Where are "they"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"Another district parent named Anntoinette spoke about children experiencing stress and called it a tragedy that children who had once loved school and were successful now dread going to school.

“... watched with a breaking heart how her daughter’s love of school has dwindled by the inappropriate standards placed on her at her tender age.”

“Earlier this week, a five-year-old was crying because she was frustrated with the day’s assignment of paragraph-mapping. Most of the children are struggling with learning the alphabet and they are being asked to deconstruct a paragraph….”

“My child has also been having difficulties with Common Core, starting last year. We had her crying, confused, utterly upset anytime she was given homework and I couldn’t help her with it. And I am a university graduate….”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/nov/18/ticker-chula-vista-school-admin-common-core/#ixzz2l7qBM7T8

This is curriculum, not standards. The K standards do not call for paragraph mapping. Read them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They are certainly testing Kindergartners.

http://teachersletterstobillgates.com/2014/03/21/five-hours-of-gates-led-kindergarten-common-core-map-tests-testhearingsnow/

"Because of you — despite being in tears, these innocent 5 and 6 year old children — children who used to be finger painting, learning nursery rhymes, engaging in dramatic play with miniature kitchens, role playing with costumes and puppets, and building forts with large wooden blocks — endured FIVE hours of standardized testing. FIVE hours of standardized testing of 5 and 6 year olds? Do you really think American parents and teachers are going to allow this testing abuse?

...

So is this test really that bad? Here is a demo of the MAP test for primary grades. Just imagine being 5 or 6 years old, sitting behind a screen taking this test for 5 hours, then read the details below as written by the Badass Teacher who is sending out the alarm call to stop this madness!"

The day my kindergarten took a test called the Common Core MAP



"The test is adaptive. When a child answers a question, the next batch of questions is slightly harder or easier depending on the correctness of their answer. The math and language arts sections each had 57 questions.

Kids in one class took five hours to finish. Kids were crying in 4 of 5 classes.

There were multiple computer crashes (“okay, you just sit right there while we fix it! Don’t talk to anyone!”). There were kids sitting for half hour with volume off on headsets but not saying anything. Kids accidentally swapped tangled headsets and didn’t seem to notice that what they heard had nothing to do with what they saw on the screen.

"They" again!

Where are "they"?

The state of Washington, apparently. Common Core doesn't dictate how WA or any other state implements curriculum or assessments. This is an issue for county and state school boards, and state legislatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

"This is a 3rd grader at 10 o’clock on a Wednesday night literally crying over her homework. This is a child hungry for knowledge – a child who loves to learn. This is a child with a broken spirit. I didn’t have to take several pictures to capture one that happened to include a tear, because the tears were pouring down her face. This is a very smart kid in the midst of feeling like a failure."

http://www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com/common-core-harmful-to-children/

Are you being paid to find and post these blogs? Do you get extra for every word you bold?

No one is refuting that these examples are problematic - only that you and many others are misdiagnosing the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"Another district parent named Anntoinette spoke about children experiencing stress and called it a tragedy that children who had once loved school and were successful now dread going to school.

“... watched with a breaking heart how her daughter’s love of school has dwindled by the inappropriate standards placed on her at her tender age.”

“Earlier this week, a five-year-old was crying because she was frustrated with the day’s assignment of paragraph-mapping. Most of the children are struggling with learning the alphabet and they are being asked to deconstruct a paragraph….”

“My child has also been having difficulties with Common Core, starting last year. We had her crying, confused, utterly upset anytime she was given homework and I couldn’t help her with it. And I am a university graduate….”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/nov/18/ticker-chula-vista-school-admin-common-core/#ixzz2l7qBM7T8

This is curriculum, not standards. The K standards do not call for paragraph mapping. Read them.

The standards are poorly written and vague and can be interpreted many ways. Surely you can see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

I don't understand. Is the argument that the standards are too hard and demanding, or that they are unnecessary because they were being done already (in which case obviously they are not too hard or demanding)?

They are shitty all the way through because they were rushed and not tested. The "standards" are too abstract in younger ages where children are concrete thinkers. They are poorly and vaguely written. They immediately demand reading levels way above what kids are reading now.


And Common Core has totally radical and ineffective way of teaching math -- it will leave our kids years behind in math skills by the time they graduate from high school.

http://wheresthemath.com/curriculum-reviews/explicit-instruction-or-reform/

Explicit Instruction versus Reform

“Despite decades of advocacy, there is no body of evidence based on randomised, controlled experiments demonstrating the superiority of inquiry-based over explicit instruction. There is a huge body of evidence from around the globe demonstrating the advantages of explicitly showing learners how to solve problems as opposed to having them discover how to solve the same problems."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

"Another district parent named Anntoinette spoke about children experiencing stress and called it a tragedy that children who had once loved school and were successful now dread going to school.

“... watched with a breaking heart how her daughter’s love of school has dwindled by the inappropriate standards placed on her at her tender age.”

“Earlier this week, a five-year-old was crying because she was frustrated with the day’s assignment of paragraph-mapping. Most of the children are struggling with learning the alphabet and they are being asked to deconstruct a paragraph….”

“My child has also been having difficulties with Common Core, starting last year. We had her crying, confused, utterly upset anytime she was given homework and I couldn’t help her with it. And I am a university graduate….”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/nov/18/ticker-chula-vista-school-admin-common-core/#ixzz2l7qBM7T8

This is curriculum, not standards. The K standards do not call for paragraph mapping. Read them.

The standards are poorly written and vague and can be interpreted many ways. Surely you can see that.

No, actually I do not see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

I don't understand. Is the argument that the standards are too hard and demanding, or that they are unnecessary because they were being done already (in which case obviously they are not too hard or demanding)?

They are shitty all the way through because they were rushed and not tested. The "standards" are too abstract in younger ages where children are concrete thinkers. They are poorly and vaguely written. They immediately demand reading levels way above what kids are reading now.


And Common Core has totally radical and ineffective way of teaching math -- it will leave our kids years behind in math skills by the time they graduate from high school.

http://wheresthemath.com/curriculum-reviews/explicit-instruction-or-reform/

Explicit Instruction versus Reform

“Despite decades of advocacy, there is no body of evidence based on randomised, controlled experiments demonstrating the superiority of inquiry-based over explicit instruction. There is a huge body of evidence from around the globe demonstrating the advantages of explicitly showing learners how to solve problems as opposed to having them discover how to solve the same problems."

The methods used to teach math are curriculum, not standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The comprehension standards on the first page of this thread might as well be summarized as "understand a story and be able to talk about it." That's not beyond the scope of kindergarten.

And, you don't think your kindergartener would do this without Common Core? K teachers have always done this.

I don't understand. Is the argument that the standards are too hard and demanding, or that they are unnecessary because they were being done already (in which case obviously they are not too hard or demanding)?

They are shitty all the way through because they were rushed and not tested. The "standards" are too abstract in younger ages where children are concrete thinkers. They are poorly and vaguely written. They immediately demand reading levels way above what kids are reading now.


And Common Core has totally radical and ineffective way of teaching math -- it will leave our kids years behind in math skills by the time they graduate from high school.

http://wheresthemath.com/curriculum-reviews/explicit-instruction-or-reform/

Explicit Instruction versus Reform

“Despite decades of advocacy, there is no body of evidence based on randomised, controlled experiments demonstrating the superiority of inquiry-based over explicit instruction. There is a huge body of evidence from around the globe demonstrating the advantages of explicitly showing learners how to solve problems as opposed to having them discover how to solve the same problems."

Step away from the blogs. The standards don't mandate methods or curriculum thus there is no Common Core "way to teach math."