When are boundary changes being announced?

[Anonymous]

time to cue Veruca Salt's 1994 hit Seether: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC9AUR-iTo0

[Anonymous]

tcf.org/assets/downloads/tcf-schwartz.pdf

[Anonymous]

"But we are talking about poverty, the kind of poverty that ruins most kids' chances before they are even born. Why don't they get back to focusing on early education and social programs and if they are going to tinker with schools, DON'T BREAK the schools that are functioning when it is pretty much certain not to help anyone and to hurt that 37% at Wilson, that 23% at Deal, and the other AA and Latino kids at those schools because yes, diversity is a good thing, as long as it does not destroy education. And helping disadvantaged kids is a good thing."

+1

There was a study out just this week about the large percentage of elementary schools (namely low income kids) who are under high amounts of stress due to their adverse circumstances, and behavioral therapy implemented in some Early Start programs that seems very successful in addressing the behavioral problems that these kids have. It would make far more sense for DCPS to put these types of programs into the high % FARMS schools then it would to shuffle the FARMS kids around the city, dismantling successful neighborhood schools in the process and pushing professional families out of the city.

[Anonymous]

Hard to find a word that accurately describe this ... overreaction to something that hasn't even been proposed. But the repeat speculation that Marion Barry has even a little bit of influence over schools is the only clue anyone needs that you're not...thinking clearly.

And please stop typing "it's not about race" when every fifth word in your epic post is black, white, Hispanic or race.

No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools. The more likely scenario is a lottery with preferences that will crowd out most OOB students.

[Anonymous]

But that only works if you give the contract for the Early Start to a qualified company-- and not to a newly created non-profit started by the sister-in-law of a dcps political patronage pol who pays 45% of the grant to herself as overhead, another 45% to her husband (brother of said pol) as additional overhead, and then spends 10% to pay her 22 year old goddaughter who just graduated from UDC to try to run it-- but now there's not enough money and resources actually going to the mission purpose to make a difference to the kids who are supposed to be helped. Welcome to traditional DC government contracting.

[Anonymous]

No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools. The more likely scenario is a lottery with preferences that will crowd out most OOB students.



You maybe did not get what he/she meant: we want school choices, not school chances. High chances to go to Wilson are not enough. If school choice will be removed, I also will do what my parents would have done for me: move 4 miles north, to Montgomery County.

Integration, social justice are all fundamental values for me, and I have devoted my professional career to helping the poorest from the SE of the world, while with my qualifications (PhD economics, fully achieved in the public school/college system of my European home country) I could have landed into much higher paying jobs. I do believe in public schools, and I am renting a tiny apartment in a building in Wesley Heights to have my kids attending what I think is the best public ES for them (Mann). I volunteer and donate a lot of $$ to the causes/charities I believe into. However when it comes to my kids, I need to put what I think is best for them if front of everything. Especially in front of nonsense proposals such as the social experiments we are reading about on these days (controlled-choice city-lottery types).

You might not agree with what I am about to say, but we will be greatly missed by DCPS. I volunteer to school several hrs a month, and pay about $2,500 in voluntary contributions to the PTA each year. My kids (I know this is not granted in the future) are extremely smart, top scores, generous and helpful to the others (teachers say this, not me). We bring diversity to the school as Europeans (language, culture, history, perspectives).

In 2 years I would definetly send my kids to Hardy MS if MS school choice will still be in place (as long as Pride - who came to visit our school will stay).

[Anonymous]

" It would make far more sense for DCPS to put these types of programs into the high % FARMS schools then it would to shuffle the FARMS kids around the city, dismantling successful neighborhood schools in the process and pushing professional families out of the city"

I 100% agree with what you are saying.

[Anonymous]

"No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools"


It's clear that you really have no clue of what/how most Ward 3 public school parents think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But that only works if you give the contract for the Early Start to a qualified company-- and not to a newly created non-profit started by the sister-in-law of a dcps political patronage pol who pays 45% of the grant to herself as overhead, another 45% to her husband (brother of said pol) as additional overhead, and then spends 10% to pay her 22 year old goddaughter who just graduated from UDC to try to run it-- but now there's not enough money and resources actually going to the mission purpose to make a difference to the kids who are supposed to be helped. Welcome to traditional DC government contracting.

I like you. I can tell you've lived here a while, since waaay before Tony Williams, right? You got this scenario just right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But that only works if you give the contract for the Early Start to a qualified company-- and not to a newly created non-profit started by the sister-in-law of a dcps political patronage pol who pays 45% of the grant to herself as overhead, another 45% to her husband (brother of said pol) as additional overhead, and then spends 10% to pay her 22 year old goddaughter who just graduated from UDC to try to run it-- but now there's not enough money and resources actually going to the mission purpose to make a difference to the kids who are supposed to be helped. Welcome to traditional DC government contracting.

I like you. I can tell you've lived here a while, since waaay before Tony Williams, right? You got this scenario just right.

are you sure the goddaughter graduated by 22? Most UDC graduates take much longer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools. The more likely scenario is a lottery with preferences that will crowd out most OOB students.

You maybe did not get what he/she meant: we want school choices, not school chances. High chances to go to Wilson are not enough. If school choice will be removed, I also will do what my parents would have done for me: move 4 miles north, to Montgomery County.

Integration, social justice are all fundamental values for me, and I have devoted my professional career to helping the poorest from the SE of the world, while with my qualifications (PhD economics, fully achieved in the public school/college system of my European home country) I could have landed into much higher paying jobs. I do believe in public schools, and I am renting a tiny apartment in a building in Wesley Heights to have my kids attending what I think is the best public ES for them (Mann). I volunteer and donate a lot of $$ to the causes/charities I believe into. However when it comes to my kids, I need to put what I think is best for them if front of everything. Especially in front of nonsense proposals such as the social experiments we are reading about on these days (controlled-choice city-lottery types).

You might not agree with what I am about to say, but we will be greatly missed by DCPS. I volunteer to school several hrs a month, and pay about $2,500 in voluntary contributions to the PTA each year. My kids (I know this is not granted in the future) are extremely smart, top scores, generous and helpful to the others (teachers say this, not me). We bring diversity to the school as Europeans (language, culture, history, perspectives).

In 2 years I would definetly send my kids to Hardy MS if MS school choice will still be in place (as long as Pride - who came to visit our school will stay).



Thank you for writing this. This sums it up, and eloquently. I believe the vast majority of high-SES people in DC are well-educated liberal-leaning people who believe in public schools. But having a guaranteed neighborhood school, knowing that once you buy or rent your house there, it is a sure thing, is what allows committed parents to invest enormous amounts of time and money in both schools and real estate. Take this certainty away and people will seek certainty elsewhere, which is difficult in some cities but in DC is as easy as moving a few miles away.

[Anonymous]

Yup! And Betheada gets a whole lot more
expensive. Does the Gov want to lose all that $ from property taxes? That $ helps all the kids in DCPS regardless of income levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools. The more likely scenario is a lottery with preferences that will crowd out most OOB students.

Anonymous wrote: maybe did not get what he/she meant: we want school choices, not school chances. High chances to go to Wilson are not enough. If school choice will be removed, I also will do what my parents would have done for me: move 4 miles north, to Montgomery County.

Integration, social justice are all fundamental values for me, and I have devoted my professional career to helping the poorest from the SE of the world, while with my qualifications (PhD economics, fully achieved in the public school/college system of my European home country) I could have landed into much higher paying jobs. I do believe in public schools, and I am renting a tiny apartment in a building in Wesley Heights to have my kids attending what I think is the best public ES for them (Mann). I volunteer and donate a lot of $$ to the causes/charities I believe into. However when it comes to my kids, I need to put what I think is best for them if front of everything. Especially in front of nonsense proposals such as the social experiments we are reading about on these days (controlled-choice city-lottery types).

You might not agree with what I am about to say, but we will be greatly missed by DCPS. I volunteer to school several hrs a month, and pay about $2,500 in voluntary contributions to the PTA each year. My kids (I know this is not granted in the future) are extremely smart, top scores, generous and helpful to the others (teachers say this, not me). We bring diversity to the school as Europeans (language, culture, history, perspectives).

In 2 years I would definetly send my kids to Hardy MS if MS school choice will still be in place (as long as Pride - who came to visit our school will stay).

All of this is laudable but as I read this thread and its growing hysteria, I'm getting more and more convinced that not much will change for families west of the park. People are calling the idea nonsense and ridiculous and social experimentation because that's exactly what it is. I keep looking for evidence that controlled choice is anything more than an idea here in DC. We don't have the same population, the same history the same anything as San Francisco and the idea of kids leaving Glover Park to go to school on the Hill is just downright laughable. It's not happening. Forget lawsuits, the mere logistics make it impossible.

If there's evidence anywhere that this is being seriously considered--evidence beyond that stupid Washington Post opinion piece and a blog post written on Greater Greater Washington--would someone please link it? The only thing I can find are some Capitol Hill parents meetings where it's discussed (as an idea), some Chevy Chase community meetings and a Kaya Henderson speech in which she gave half of one sentence over to the idea of city-wide magnet schools.

What is more probable than city-wide lottery for MS and HS is that everyone EOTP will be forced to stay EOTP. That's the part of town that's going to scream the loudest. That's where there's potential for lawsuit. Those are the people who should be griping and complaining and threatening to run off to Montgomery County. (As if!)

Who is it you Ward 3 people think you're threatening? If you move out of your house, the value will go up and there will be another family moving in before it's time to cut the lawn again.

[Anonymous]

PP - I don't believe they are talking about lottery based middle school, rather, High School.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to find a word that accurately describe this ... overreaction to something that hasn't even been proposed. But the repeat speculation that Marion Barry has even a little bit of influence over schools is the only clue anyone needs that you're not...thinking clearly.

And please stop typing "it's not about race" when every fifth word in your epic post is black, white, Hispanic or race.

No one is going to be shipping poor black kids over to your schools. The more likely scenario is a lottery with preferences that will crowd out most OOB students.

You are the one who is not thinking clearly. Marion Barry has endorsed Vincent Gray. Vincent Gray is a criminal. He has been specifically named in the plea bargain of a criminal. The only question about his indictment by a US Attorney is when (not if). The old way is absolutely rolling along. The question to be asked is how far away is Bowser? Wells? Catania?