Is there an official T10 list?
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Sure, send kid to an SEC that accepts APs of 2 or higher, we won't judge you if you won't judge us sending our dc to a school with some standards in terms of educating their students. |
Anonymous
You have your own bias. No one I know hold Columbia in the highest regard anymore. |
Anonymous
Except Leopold Aschenbrenner đ Laughing all the way to the bank, that one. |
Anonymous
Yes, USNWR Top Universities. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities. There's a separate top ten for Best National Liberal Arts Colleges. |
Anonymous
NP I see the same in our non-DMV east coast feeder private. Columbia is not as desirable as Penn and Duke, which seem to be the two schools kids now want most after HYPMS, followed by Williams, Brown and Dartmouth. Not a lot of kids want Caltech but itâs held in high regards and seen as too hard for most kids. Our school sends at least 20% to Ivies a year (not counting Ivy plus) including at least 7-8 kids to HYP (out of 100) and another 30% to the Ivy+ and WASP, latest trend parents are noticing (CC even commented some of this): - fewer kids want JHU, seen as the new where fun goes to die - a lot more kids want Duke than 5-10 years ago - Brown is seen as most unpredictable among Ivies or top schools we historically âfeedâ to for over 100 years - more kids now want Cornell than before. It used to be looked down upon (I know this will evoke eye rolls) by top kids and the wealthiest families but it is now seen as more well-rounded and less grindy as before - not one single kid EDed to Chicago in the most recent cycle. Families are getting turned off by their ED or bust approach. Also kids are unclear if it is a strong humanities school or a strong STEM school, or neither. It is now only known for economics but I heard some recent alums from our school are choosing it for law school after going to HYPMS Penn Duke Dartmouth for undergrad. - no non-athlete use their ED on WASP, itâs seen as a risky bet. A decent amount of kids get in RD from our school so if you really want WASP, you try your luck at HYPMS EA so you donât waste your early choice but itâs not binding - all the yield protection schools have in last 2 cycles made college app less stressful for a lot of kids, which is a reversal of the trend of hypercompetitiveness and hyper anxiety. Schools like WashU, Emory and Vanderbilt now very reliably take 3.6 GPA kids if you ED. If you ED schools like Middlebury, Hamilton, Tufts, Vassar with a 3.4, you will get in. This has made things more relaxing and at a school like ours that used to be HYP or busy, families have recently become more open to T20-40 schools. The only exception is Rice, they need high SAT plus around 3.8 GPA, but if you apply with that ED, your chance of acceptance is literally 100% for kids from our school in the last 5-6 years. |
Anonymous
| Yes. There are actually 100's of them. It all depends on the source |
Anonymous
It's kept at the National Archives. |
Anonymous
| The 7 pre-Revolutionary Ivies plus Stanford, MIT, and Chicago. No other answers will be accepted. |
Anonymous
Agree it really is not, even among ivies who are brand loyal it is shunned for the data-faking 3 yrs ago and all the other issues the past 18 months. Top 10 are Likely HYPSM Caltech Penn Duke Chicago Northwestern/JHU tied for 10th. Some would move Chicago down due to the ED0-4 nonsense. Maybe that is fair, maybe not but it would remain above the bottom 3 ivies likely. |
Anonymous
never heard that before |
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Harvard
Yale Princeton Stanford MIT Columbia Chicago Penn Northwestern Duke Caltech |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
Why would it be Chicago before Penn? Penn is strong in business, engineering and premed. Chicago is strong in economics (theoretical at that). At most top schools, in a head-to-head most kids would choose Penn over Chicago. Duke too. And no one thinks Chicago accepts smarter students than Caltech does |
Anonymous
Penn is a colonial-era Ivy, so this doesnât put Chicago before Penn. CalTech is niche/hard to categorize. |
Anonymous
| pre-Revolutionary? Then we should include Queen's college (Rutgers today) and Willam and Mary. |