Eliot-Hine Experiences?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the boosters rationalize their kids heading to Walls, Banneker and privates and somehow they think that's ok, yet bypassing EH is not ok.

Did anyone do that on this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

My kid was at Maury a few years ago. Plenty of people with older kids told us to apply to the lottery because in their experience 3/4 of the 4th grade wouldn't return for 5th. They were open about where they were applying, in which order, everything. Families wanted to stick together so they'd get together to put their choices in the same order.

+1. I actually knew a Maury mom who kept a spreadsheet of where everyone was applying/going to help with both lottery applications and accepting/rejecting matches.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

My kid was at Maury a few years ago. Plenty of people with older kids told us to apply to the lottery because in their experience 3/4 of the 4th grade wouldn't return for 5th. They were open about where they were applying, in which order, everything. Families wanted to stick together so they'd get together to put their choices in the same order.

+1. I actually knew a Maury mom who kept a spreadsheet of where everyone was applying/going to help with both lottery applications and accepting/rejecting matches.

Wow. That’s a bit extra!

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

My kid was at Maury a few years ago. Plenty of people with older kids told us to apply to the lottery because in their experience 3/4 of the 4th grade wouldn't return for 5th. They were open about where they were applying, in which order, everything. Families wanted to stick together so they'd get together to put their choices in the same order.

+1. I actually knew a Maury mom who kept a spreadsheet of where everyone was applying/going to help with both lottery applications and accepting/rejecting matches.

Wow. That’s a bit extra!

That mom was one of the most popular women around that lottery season. Many people wanted that info.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

I also feel like this city is full of people who seem to be in a constant comparison state of keeping up with the Jones', and hyper sensitive to what other people think of them ... and in doing so blow things out of proportion and/or assume they know what other people are even thinking. This 'classist/racist' commentary came up back when the Maury/Miner combination got thrown around, and we all can agree that process didn't bring out the best in people. But overall, people come, people go, and after you leave people really don't spend as much time thinking about you as you would think!
Enjoy whatever school you are at, we are lucky to be in a city with so many options.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

I also feel like this city is full of people who seem to be in a constant comparison state of keeping up with the Jones', and hyper sensitive to what other people think of them ... and in doing so blow things out of proportion and/or assume they know what other people are even thinking. This 'classist/racist' commentary came up back when the Maury/Miner combination got thrown around, and we all can agree that process didn't bring out the best in people. But overall, people come, people go, and after you leave people really don't spend as much time thinking about you as you would think!
Enjoy whatever school you are at, we are lucky to be in a city with so many options.

As a parent of a kid who repeatedly bottoms out in the lottery, can't say I agree with you here.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

I also feel like this city is full of people who seem to be in a constant comparison state of keeping up with the Jones', and hyper sensitive to what other people think of them ... and in doing so blow things out of proportion and/or assume they know what other people are even thinking. This 'classist/racist' commentary came up back when the Maury/Miner combination got thrown around, and we all can agree that process didn't bring out the best in people. But overall, people come, people go, and after you leave people really don't spend as much time thinking about you as you would think!
Enjoy whatever school you are at, we are lucky to be in a city with so many options.

No the truth is that there is little quality options in the city for many kids. The few schools that can provide a more rigorous curriculum are in demand and don’t have enough seats for all the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

There is a big gap between best decision and nothing redeeming.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

PP here who said we kept the decision under wraps. Agree with this. But my point was that rather than be called or seen as something negative by a classmate’s parents, we just distance ourselves, and as this thread (and experience) shows, we’re not alone. Instead of it being an information sharing and open process— which discussion of spreadsheet mom from a few years ago indicates it used to be—it’s now about shame and judgment, which is not doing anyone a service, including EH.

[Anonymous]

I think a lot of different things are going on here. For the Maury community, the Maury Miner proposal dredged up a lot of really complicated stuff. For some people in the upper grades right now at Maury, opposing the merger but being all in on EH is how they have personally responded. That said, my child attends EH and I have been pleasantly surprised by how mostly good it is. If you go digging for flaws, you will find them. But, if you live in Hill East, it is a real choice worth considering. The range of very different opinions (loud and quiet) about EH at Maury in the upper grades right now might just illustrate that the needle has moved some and the reputation of the school is in flux. I think Payne is actually the main feeder right now, but you might over the next few years see an uptick in students enrolling from Maury.

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Anonymous wrote:Just ask people in the neighborhood OP. You’ll get better results than here.

No, the neighborhood is full of boosters. I worry people who have had bad experiences won't say a word because they are afraid of backlash.

Maybe it’s because most of the neighbors who send their kids to EH are pretty content with it? I know I am. The only kids I know of that left before 8th had very specific reasons.

No. NP here with a kid at Maury. I don’t talk middle school with other kids’ parents because the pro-EH narrative is so rabid and deciding EH isn’t for your kid is coded as racist/classist/being a bad neighbor. Our decision that it’s not right for our kid is being kept under wraps. Ridiculous it comes to this.

This is so crazy to me. why would people sacrifice their child's education just because the parent (not the child!) is experiencing peer pressure?

No one sacrifices in this way. Most people know that just because someone calls them racist/classist/being a bad neighbor doesn't mean that it's true.

It’s also a lot less common than people claim. I don’t think I ever heard anyone say this type of thing in my whole time on the Hill. I heard about people saying it but never heard it.

+1. Everyone I know would just say "you need to make the best decision for your kid."

For some families, EH really is the best decision. People who claim that there is nothing redeeming at all about the school don't know what they're talking about.

There is a big gap between best decision and nothing redeeming.

Yeah, there is the best school for your child, then there is "your child will be fine" if they go to a good enough school, and then there is "your child will slightly suffer" at a not-quite good enough school, and then there is nothing redeeming.

The confusion comes when people with a "best school" mindset and those with a "good enough school" mindset talk to each other assuming they are coming from the same perspective.